Originally Posted By barboy I'm waiting for CNN or any other big outlet to profile one who has made a voodoo doll with pins of either candidate.
Originally Posted By mele Is Obama wearing a Pee-Wee Herman suit? You know, the hanging Palin was a lot less graphic than this woman's display.
Originally Posted By barboy ///No one forced them. That's my point./// How about 'pressured' then? The pranksters should not have been pressured by a public entity.
Originally Posted By mawnck Precisely. How soon we forget that free speech goes both ways. It includes stacks of emails and demonstrations on public streets.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>And now there's an ignorant, idiotic woman in Redondo Beach who has hung Obama in effigy, slitting his throat and cutting him in half. She doesn't like him because he doesn't wear a flag pin. << Resolved in exactly the same way. >>The lynched effigy of Democratic candidate Barack Obama came down after police officers and a representative from John McCain's local campaign office paid a visit to Lisa Castaneda last night and convinced her to take it down, according to authorities.<<
Originally Posted By barboy mele who is 'they' in 104? Is it the public officials, the pranksters or the passerby/onlookers?
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Is it the public officials, the pranksters or the passerby/onlookers?<< I ain't mele, but IMHO, all of the above.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Both resolutions wouldn't pass a constitutional smell test.
Originally Posted By mele Exactly, if the guys who hung Palin have the right to express themselves how they want (with no responsibilites to anyone else) then everyone else has that right, too. They made a display that was deliberately provocative and they got the attention they wanted. Maybe they didn't want as much attention as they got, but they knew what they were doing would offend some people. Or are we to think that they really are that stupid and naive?
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Both resolutions wouldn't pass a constitutional smell test. << They don't have to. Problem resolved by reasonable people reasoning with reasonable people. This is EXACTLY how I'd like to see Congress work.
Originally Posted By mele And as to the goverment officials talking to them, what else did they expect once the public seized upon this story and started congregating outside the house. It's easier to ask for the display to be removed than try to control hundreds to thousands of people.
Originally Posted By barboy ///The lynched effigy of Democratic candidate Barack Obama came down after police officers and a representative from John McCain's local campaign office paid a visit to Lisa Castaneda last night and convinced her to take it down/// I might have a real problem about the police's role. If the police were present solely to keep peace/protection then good---come on over and join the party. If the police were present to 'persuade' the 'artist'/activist to remove the figure then we got problems. I don't want any more holes in our Bill of Rights. Lately the Bill of Rights has been used as target practice and enough is enough.
Originally Posted By mele I can agree with that. I just don't want to jump to any conclusions about what happened in their talks.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "They don't have to. Problem resolved by reasonable people reasoning with reasonable people." Well, yes they do. We're getting off the track here somewhat though. While I believe both parties were seeking attention and were successful, they both did it in a rather disgusting and vile way. But the First Amendment exists to protect all forms of expression, not just the ones that we don't find disagreeable. You know, the old slippery slope thing.
