Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "And getting back on topic, visiting a seaside amusemnt park is not a fantastic adventure. Being in the Mad Hatter's Tea Party is." Did ever occur to you that while you are riding the spinning teacups at Disneyland you are indeed inside an amusement park?
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> Those who don't see the very distinctive Disney touches and attention to detail that are in Paradise Pier are seeing it with their eyes firmly closed or with blinders on. << By the same token, those who don't notice all the ticky-tacky stucco walls, the cheap steel-framed service windows, the cheesiness of Muholland Madness, the dreary, plain concrete pool around King Triton's Carousel, the cheap seats of the Jumpin' Jellyfish ride, the unsightly exposed motor in the queue area of the Sun Wheel, the shoddy plastic seatbelts on the Golden Zephyr, the Six-Flags-ized charm of the Mailboomer, etc, etc, need to make an appointment (ASAP!) with Lenscrafters.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt God grief, disneywatcher. Who here hasn't noticed that stuff? Especially given that you've gone out of your way to point it out to us for 6 years now. Give it a rest already.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> Who here hasn't noticed that stuff? << Oh, I'd say anyone who claims that Paradise Pier is Disneyized -- or good -- enough.
Originally Posted By GhostHost2 "Did ever occur to you that while you are riding the spinning teacups at Disneyland you are indeed inside an amusement park?" No, you're in a theme park that makes you believe you are in a magical land, there is a difference.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Oh, okay. Thanks for the clarification. So when I'm on Dumbo I'm actually supposed to believe that I'm on the back of a flying elephant. Got it.
Originally Posted By GhostHost2 "Oh, okay. Thanks for the clarification. So when I'm on Dumbo I'm actually supposed to believe that I'm on the back of a flying elephant. Got it." It's called imagination.
Originally Posted By Mr X >>>No, you're in a theme park that makes you believe you are in a magical land, there is a difference.<<< No offense dude, but you're 21 not 12. Sure Disney is a lot of fun, but if you're reading so much more into it (trying to "believe" you're anyplace but a fun amusement park) that's just pathetic.
Originally Posted By Pirate Mickey Walt Disney hated cheap looking carnival attractions or boardwalks. And he definitely did not want them represented anywhere in his own parks.
Originally Posted By Pirate Mickey And a lot of what Eisner put and now Iger is putting into the parks is a lot of carnival junk! Eisner's motto: "The cheaper the better as long as we make money off of it." And it seems like Iger agrees.
Originally Posted By Mr X I agree that current management does things on the cheap. They don't hesitate to increase ticket prices though! However, you can't say that Walt Disney "hated" boardwalks, or even particular attractions (dumbo and teacups are as "carney" as can be). What he hated were dirty amusement parks where there was nothing for families to do together.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney WHAT?? My post about sneaking 40's in NOS has been admined . I never SUGGESTED kids or teens should do it, sheesh. Yeah, okay, I sneak it in and all, but if you're under 21, DON'T DO IT KIDS!!!! Leave it up to us adults to break the law!!! Better? (WorldDisney has now been kicked off of LP...and honestly, it should've happened years ago ;D)
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Walt Disney hated cheap looking carnival attractions or boardwalks." Where did you read that Walt Disney "hated" these kinds of attractions? Much of what was in Fantasyland circa 1955 through 1982 was cheap looking carnival type attractions.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains It was my understanding that the reason these parks were built were so families could enjoy the fun together in a nice clean environment. This has been accomplished. Do I think some of the rides could be better? Of course> These parks were ment to continually evolve. What you may or may not like today might be there tomorrow or not...That is what is unique about Disney Parks - they don't just throw in any old rollercoaster, they take the time to find a reason for the rollercoater (BTTMRR,MH) are they all themed, well mostly, but that is another part of the charm of DL. So I guess if you don't like what is there today, wait and see, it may take a while, but it is usually worth the wait...JMOO
Originally Posted By GhostHost2 "dumbo and teacups are as "carney" as can be" These rides may be take offs on "carney" rides, but what Disney did is take something mundane and turn it into a magical themed experience. If you think you are so mature that you can't use your imagination, that is pathetic. The Paradise Pier rides give no motivation to use imagination, unlike the Fantasyland rides.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt ^^You've got me so confused. Aren't visitors supposed to "imagine" that they are visiting a seaside amusement park at PP? I get that the execution isn't as thorough as it could be, but the principle is the same, isn't it?
Originally Posted By GhostHost2 "You've got me so confused. Aren't visitors supposed to "imagine" that they are visiting a seaside amusement park at PP? I get that the execution isn't as thorough as it could be, but the principle is the same, isn't it?" Who cares about visiting a seaside amusement park, when they could be visiting a wide range of much more exciting options?
Originally Posted By Roger55 neener neener neeeeener! You gotta admit Hans, he got you GOOD with that "who cares" come back! Who cares about some run down old house, or some dirty overgrown temple? And who cares about Seeing a bunch of dolls dressed as pirates? ROFL!
Originally Posted By GhostHost2 "Who cares about some run down old house, or some dirty overgrown temple? And who cares about Seeing a bunch of dolls dressed as pirates?" That old house happens to be haunted, that temple happens to be cursed, and those dolls dressed as pirates are very lifelike.
