Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "So why don't all you teens and twenty somethings stop trying to tell people WHO WERE THERE what 50's theme parks were like and what attractions seemed better themed and provided more enjoyment." Because people can't decipher truth from corporate spin.
Originally Posted By jonvn Hey, I have the souvenir booklet from when the park first opened. If you want to see it, you can go to my website at <a href="http://disney.nadelberg.com" target="_blank">http://disney.nadelberg.com</a> and take a look at the 1955 souvenir booklet link.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Why does that line feel like everyone should read 1984. It's sad because it is indeed true.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<Because people can't decipher truth from corporate spin.>> Maan, there are SO many things I want to say right now, I'm busting at the seams ;D. I'll just keep it zipped though.
Originally Posted By Mr X Probably a good idea WD. That old booklet is great, thanks for posting the link again Jon.
Originally Posted By Mr X I especially enjoy the (over)use of the term "gay" a few times in the descriptions. (definitely shows you how long ago the thing was printed!)
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<Because people can't decipher truth from corporate spin.>> >>Maan, there are SO many things I want to say right now, I'm busting at the seams ;D. I'll just keep it zipped though.<< <<Probably a good idea WD.>> I'll keep it shut, but you gotta admit, the irony of it is soooo THICK!!! ;D
Originally Posted By jonvn You know, I once used "gay" as a description of things I didn't like about what they were doing, people got mad. I actually meant it as how it was originally intended. For example, in the original sub ride, you saw a killer whale grapple with a giant squid to the death. Drama, life and death, struggle. Now, it's all HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY! It's too gay. It's too light. It needs to be hardened up a bit. That does not mean they need to do rides based on Quake 4, but for god's sake, have something that is not so very cloying.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<You two are like little school girls.>> Sadly you're not too far off ;D.
Originally Posted By Mr X >>You two are like little school girls.<< You know, Hans, if you just learned how to have a regular conversation where you actually talk about your opinion and reply to what people are asking you about and all that normal "conversation" stuff, maybe you wouldn't be catching so much flak. Anyway, whatever. Think what you want.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt ^^I do not know you; therefore the only feeble conclusions I can draw about you are based on your behavior here. Now, I do have great conversations with LPers who know how do conduct themselves here without resorting to impolite name-calling. I bear no ill will to you Mr. X, but instead of engaging in a real discourse, my impression of you is that you are a contentious bully who wants to provoke a fight. I hope that that is not representative of who you are when you are in the real world. I would not bother coming to LP as frequently as I do if it were not for the great community that exists here. There are few people here who disagree with me on some points (hello World Disney and OCdean!), and there are a few trolls who have nothing better to do than provoke arguments. Nevertheless, for the most part, our disputes are friendly and we generally agree to disagree. I admit that I can get a bit irritated and stubborn at times when people say the same thing repeatedly, but I usually try to be cordial and apologize when I recognize that I have crossed the line. Finally, yes, I like DCA and I hate DSP. If you see a contradiction there, so be it.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster Hans, I enjoy reading your posts more than most everyone else here. Don't ever change.
Originally Posted By Mr X >>I bear no ill will to you Mr. X, but instead of engaging in a real discourse, my impression of you is that you are a contentious bully who wants to provoke a fight.<< That's funny, considering that most of my comments towards you have been asking YOU to please engage in a real discourse, but you haven't. As far as my being a bully or whatever, I'll simply remind you that my original post to YOU (recently) was to agree with your point, while asking you not to write insulting comments to one of my friends. So, we both don't like each other. Fine. >>I usually try to be cordial and apologize<< Must have missed that post. >>Finally, yes, I like DCA and I hate DSP. If you see a contradiction there, so be it.<< Not only me. Believe it or not, I've received emails from several posters who found that funny. And it's not the fact that you LIKE DCA, plenty of people seem to...it's the fact that you used to go out of your way to discredit and insult people who had issues with the park. Thus, the many comments like "now you know how we feel" you've received recently.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt “That's funny, considering that most of my comments towards you have been asking YOU to please engage in a real discourse, but you haven't.†And my response to you in post 171 wasn’t “real discourse� Clearly, we have different definitions of what the terms real and discourse mean. You know, it takes two to tango. “As far as my being a bully or whatever, I'll simply remind you that my original post to YOU (recently) was to agree with your point, while asking you not to write insulting comments to one of my friends.†Sorry, I do not recall the discussion in question, but if I offended you or came across as rude, I am sorry. By the way, I do not know if you are a bully or not, but you do come across that way at times. “So, we both don't like each other. Fine.†Um, okay. I never said I didn’t like you. In fact, I don’t even know you. >>Finally, yes, I like DCA and I hate DSP. If you see a contradiction there, so be it.<< “Believe it or not, I've received emails from several posters who found that funny.†Oh, I believe it. Moreover, it is not surprising in the least that there are people who have nothing better to do than gossip about me, a person that they have never met, through email. That's just silly. “And it's not the fact that you LIKE DCA, plenty of people seem to...it's the fact that you used to go out of your way to discredit and insult people who had issues with the park.†When did I do that? I do not pose my arguments to discredit anyone, but rather to discredit the argument itself. People come here and say many nonsensical things that are either gross exaggerations (DCA is a carnival in a parking lot), or just flat out lies (DCA is equivalent to Six Flags). If I disagree, then I am most certainly going to say so.
Originally Posted By jonvn Me? Never. I never ever engage in such talk. EVER! Ok, well, maybe I do, but only all the time.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> When did I do that? I do not pose my arguments to discredit anyone, but rather to discredit the argument itself. << I appreciate your opinions, Hans, if only because they run counter to anyone's and everyone's conclusion that DCA is DCA -- and couldn't have been any better than it is -- because of (or mainly because of) economics.
