Originally Posted By leemac <<That is interesting given the love of Country Music in Germany, and the wild west dinner show in Europa Park regularly sells out. Also, we noticed at Phantasialand a huge number of cowboy hats selling too.>> However that is a specific type of Americana - and only part of the DLRP experience. Ultimately the Disney theme park experience doesn't resonate with German guests and is not interesting enough for them to give up their beach holiday in Spain, Thailand etc.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I suppose there is the travel factor. Germans in my experience seem to be of two extremes, either very adventurous and keen to travel, and those who prefer to be with German speakers. I am guessing if EDL opened in Germany, it would have been very popular, but because it is not, many with the means and interest may opt for WDW or California instead?
Originally Posted By leemac <<I am guessing if EDL opened in Germany, it would have been very popular, but because it is not, many with the means and interest may opt for WDW or California instead?>> Lufthansa fly to MCO out of FRA but the demand is generally pretty weak - especially compared to the UK market where multiple carriers serve both TPA and MCO daily. Miami is far more popular - Lufthansa fly there as do their subsidiary SWISS. CA is definitely a more popular destination - both LAX and SFO are served and regularly busy. There are always a lot of Germans on my BA LHR-LAX flights - but then there is a lot more choice with 7 flgihts daily to three CA cities with BA alone.
Originally Posted By dagobert Thanks a lot for these insights! Do you think Disney will try one day to bring more Germans to DLRP? Market conditions change and maybe they should give it another try. Germany, Austria and Switzerland combined are a 100mio people market and if Disney manages to brig only one per cent more guests to DLRP, that would mean an increase in attendance by nearly 1 million.
Originally Posted By Britain Man, I don't want to say that it sounds cheap (it doesn't) but it sure sounds uninspired. No methodical selection of brands or properties. Pretty much just any IP we can get a hold of plopped into a copy of a copy of a copy of Walt's original 5 lands. The ONLY charming idea is that the western area really is what you saw in Rango, which is a western street made up of small objects (crates, buckets, cans) made huge. So you got your Bug's Land and your Frontierland rolled into one!
Originally Posted By dagobert Here's Alain Littaye's take on the project and he also talks about the impact it will have on DLRP: <a href="http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2011/10/why-future-paramount-park-in-murcia.html" target="_blank">http://disneyandmore.blogspot....cia.html</a>
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo It is just soooo nice to see something pitched to interest guys. Disney seemed to give up the ghost on any straight males over the age of 9 a long time ago. And other parks tend to focus on thrills (my main moan about Port Aventura, even though I like it). This one should be really cool, and I hope DLP feel the pain, unless they pull their finger out. DLP has been getting worse and worse over hte last 5 years. Now the refurbs are very welcome and much needed, but if the 20th anniversary entertainment is not impressive, I do not know if I will bother with DLP until the 25th. Sure, we have a villa on the DLP golf course, but we are very happy with all the non Disney things to see in the area.
Originally Posted By dagobert It seems the park is moving forward. At least the city council green lit the park. <a href="http://disneyandmore.blogspot.co.at/2013/05/green-light-for-paramount-park-at.html" target="_blank">http://disneyandmore.blogspot....-at.html</a>
Originally Posted By dagobert Here's part 2 of the D&M update. <a href="http://disneyandmore.blogspot.co.at/2013/05/paramount-park-at-alhama-de-murcia.html" target="_blank">http://disneyandmore.blogspot....cia.html</a> I don't know, but that park sound way too ambitious and too big to be successful.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN I've never heard of this Murcia city in Spain but I sure would make plans to visit if that park indeed opens in a few years.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I'm still predicting that this park will fail. I must be missing something, because I'm lost trying to understand why anyone would invest in a new theme park in Europe, let alone Spain, right now.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>'m still predicting that this park will fail. I must be missing something, because I'm lost trying to understand why anyone would invest in a new theme park in Europe, let alone Spain, right now.<<< It seems it is already dead. <a href="http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2013/06/paramount-park-project-at-alhama-de.html" target="_blank">http://disneyandmore.blogspot....-de.html</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I'm so not surprised. Anyone who knows anything about Spain would have known immediately that this was a boondoggle. "Park looked like a quality installation." Since the developer turned out to be bankrupt it's clear that the financing wasn't in place to build as proposed. Those glossy plans they flaunted were most likely meant to drum up interest from additional investors.
Originally Posted By dagobert New artwork and informations about the Paramount Park in Spain. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2014/02/paramount-park-murcia-project-in.html">http://disneyandmore.blogspot....-in.html</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Interesting. Is it me or do both "Paseo Paramount" and "Adventure City" look like Southern California shopping malls?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Interesting that this project appears to be pushing forward again. If everything gets built as shown, it will be quite an ambitious park, though I suspect it will have several cuts during construction and/or financial problems after opening >>Is it me or do both "Paseo Paramount" and "Adventure City" look like Southern California shopping malls?<< I definitely agree. My first thought when I saw some of those images was that they looked just like The Grove
Originally Posted By leemac <<Interesting that this project appears to be pushing forward again.>> The article is badly mistaken. This park is still missing most of the financing. It is no closer to being approved.