Originally Posted By ImTempest No, the protesters will be all the people that have been using the pass that shouldn't have.
Originally Posted By macnak81 just spent a day with a disabled pass and some of it went smooth. Some cast members understood, some did not and lead us right into the attraction without signing of the card as is required to do. It does offer some help. Go to the attraction you want to visit. get your pass signed. then shop eat stroll or get a standard fast pass to another attraction and then return to your determined time. Its like having 2 fast passes at once. Of course it is helpful to have numerous activities close by so you are no traversing the park 10 times . This worked well, but the crowds were low so,,,,,,We will have to see what happens during peak times. I don;t feel good about it.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros It will be interesting to see how it plays out on both coasts. I suspect it will be more positively regarded in WDW, where there was less abuse to begin with, and guests head directly to the attraction they want to visit, rather than going to a semi-centralized kiosk. It seems like WDW's system will be much easier for the average park goer, who may not know all the tricks of getting around the park, or where everything is
Originally Posted By TP2000 It's been 10 days now since DAS debuted, and the world didn't end. There were no riots on Harbor Blvd. All the cute little petitions online have gathered a few dozen "signatures" and now just sit there wasting bandwidth. The price of Disney stock actually rose over the last week. Disneyland is still very busy. And somehow all those handicapped folks who don't use wheelchairs or walkers and can walk from Space Mountain to Cars Land, and wait in line for parking lot trams and Mochas at the Main Street Starbucks, have been able to plan their day with a DAS and stand in a few lines. Life has gone on. Without the GAC. Funny how that works, isn't it?
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Someone needs to do a follow up story on the Park Avenue moms who set this thing in motion.
Originally Posted By jkayjs There are certainly things that I'm outraged by. Child abduction & abuse, coercing women in third world countries to use formula(an unsustainable feeding method in their circumstances), disrespect & neglect of our elders & the list goes on. I can however fervently assure you that the new GAC policy at Disney Parks is no where in that list. To be disappointed is an acceptable response, not necessarily justified but acceptable. When you jump to outrage 'me thinks ye dost protest too loudly'. The new policy is more than fair. I'm past 60 & my back & knees are less than optimal after 43+ yrs in healthcare. There are rides I can no longer reasonably ride. I don't go to our local amusement park because it consist almost entirely of thrill rides. It would never occur to me to demand they revamp & or add rides that I could enjoy. There is a special place in Heaven for those that care(appropriately) for people with special needs. But that being said there is also the responsiblity to recognize & accept the very real limitations that come with those needs. The new policy will meet the needs of the vast majority of folks with special needs & as a bonus will enhance the experience for the able bodied guest. I see it as a win/win.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 "Someone needs to do a follow up story on the Park Avenue moms who set this thing in motion." For me something good has come out of the bad of the Park Ave moms. The system needed a good overhauling and it has gotten it. Disney is in the process of looking at all its queues to see how best to make them all wheelchair accessible. And the new system seems fair.
Originally Posted By TP2000 Wonderful post jkayjs, thank you! And here we are, two weeks later, and the world continues to revolve around the sun. Disneyland is still open, the Disney stock price is still trending upward, and the self-absorbed women (and yes, they were all women, just noting for accuracy) who were outraged over this new DAS thing have shrunk back into the obscurity of their tacky Facebook accounts and lightly-visited Mommy Blogs they pour their hearts into every night. GAC is dead, DAS is King. Next crisis, please?
Originally Posted By sjhym333 Next crisis? I still haven't gotten over that they replaced the powder in the soap dispensers in the rest rooms with liquid.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Next crisis, please?" <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/10/08/iron-man-comes-to-disneyland-as-marvel-invasion-begins/">http://www.forbes.com/sites/sc...-begins/</a>
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>Next crisis? I still haven't gotten over that they replaced the powder in the soap dispensers in the rest rooms with liquid.<<< Some crisis's take longer to get over then others. On the bright side you can look at it like this. If someone would have replaced the powder with anthrax you would have been over it a long time ago. Along with everything else.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "Next crisis, please?" Did they ever get those manhole covers properly aligned in Disneyland Paris? I'm still fuming over that.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 Instead lets talk about the Jungle Cruise Christmas overlay that was announced today
Originally Posted By sjhym333 <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2013/10/jungle-cruise-goes-jingle-cruise-for-the-holidays-at-disneyland-park-magic-kingdom-park/">http://disneyparks.disney.go.c...om-park/</a>
Originally Posted By TP2000 Just confirming, it's been three weeks since Disney got rid of the GACs and they are still issuing DAS cards. And whiny Mommy Bloggers and slimy Annual Passholders are still grumpy about it, but have moved on with their lives. Or maybe they just go to Knott's Berry Farm now? DAS is still with us, and the world didn't come to an end. For the third week.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 A very interesting article today on Mouseplanet from a dad with a child who has autism and their use of the new DAS system. http://www.mouseplanet.com/10519/Autism_and_the_New_Disability_Assistance_Card_at_Walt_Disney_World
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Interesting read. I especially liked the part where the author pointed out that they had a pretty advantageous system when compared to getting in a traditional queue, even if it's not quite as good as what was there before. It sounds to me like this guy really knew how to work the parks, and was able to essentially FP-hop his way around. For the time being, this allows multiple sets of reservations (FP, DAS) to run concurrently, giving DAS users a big advantage. It will be interesting to see how the system ends up working when FP+ is fully rolled out and the paper FPs are eliminated entirely. It will also be interesting to see the differences between DLR and WDW, where FP habits are very different
Originally Posted By TP2000 That review seems sensible and mature. It's a far cry from the whiny self-absorbed rants from most of the other complainers in the early days of DAS. The parent in that review (a rare Dad in a world of Mommy Bloggers) still seems a bit put out by the planning and timing required to use both Fastpass and DAS in the same visit. Welcome to the 21st century; everyone else has been forced into planning their visits to WDW like the invasion of Normandy for years now. The folks now using the DAS are simply catching up on the changes of the last five years they were blissfully unaware of. Now things are more equal. The DAS folks still get extra perks and extra rides that the able bodied people paying the exact same prices get, but at least now it's more equal. I'm glad the DAS is working so well, and that Disney is sticking with it. Funny how the world didn't end on October 9th, isn't it?
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom "everyone else has been forced into planning their visits to WDW like the invasion of Normandy for years now." There are still some of us that prefer not to plan out every minute of our WDW trips. And, prefer to enjoy the parks at a more relaxed pace. We are after all on vacation. At least some of us are anyway. And those of us that prefer our WDW trips at a more relaxed pace often get annoyed with the unbridled vigilance and determination of overly anxious parents as they literally drag their bewildered offspring throughout the parks, resorts and DTD, 24/7. "The folks now using the DAS are simply catching up on the changes of the last five years they were blissfully unaware of." My brother has a moderately autistic child. Five years ago his child wasn't even toilet trained. I'm sure my brother and his wife were not thinking about trips to WDW with their child at the time.
