Originally Posted By Beaumandy << Islam is a death cult that ruins evryplace it is set up." Yet another ignorant statement from a close- minded, ethnocentric American.>> My statement was ignorant? Uh, I don't think so. I know more about Islam and what they do, how they operate, and what their religion represents than anyone on here bar none. If you think it's a few violent people that are misrepresenting the religion then you are clueless. Answer this please.... What is it about the Koran that makes so many people " misinterpret " it to the point of killing innocent people on a daily basis?
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Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom No offense taken PsylocibeFrog. I'm all for a discussion. I'm just not going to take it to a personal level.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Nobody is going to discuss this topic Tom because they are afraid to talk about the truth. The libs on here start calling people hateful or some other nonsense when they can't debate the topic at hand. I become the " hateful " one to these people, but a religion that promotes death, intolerance, and submission is perfectly fine to these ever so enlightened individuals on the left. Question to you Rokncoaster or whatever your name is.. What is it about the Koran that makes so many people " misinterpret " or " misunderstand " it to the point of killing innocent people on a daily basis? If your going to defend Muslims and their religion, this question should be an easy one for all of you.
Originally Posted By sherrytodd <<What is it about the Koran that makes so many people " misinterpret " or " misunderstand " it to the point of killing innocent people on a daily basis?>> Beau this is your claim, so I believe that you are the one who should answer this question. Where are the passages in the Koran that brainwash people into killing innocents? I'd like to know these specific passages, not a generalization, please. Thanks.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I thought this article was funny. <a href="http://www.expressandstar.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=32&num=81092" target="_blank">http://www.expressandstar.com/ cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=32&num=81092</a> <<Novelty pig calendars and toys have been banned by bosses at Dudley Council in case Muslim staff are offended. Workers in the council's benefits department have been told to remove or cover up all pig products including toys, porcelain, calendars and even a tissue box featuring Winnie the Pooh and Piglet. It comes after a Muslim worker said they were offended by pig-shaped stress relievers delivered to the authority. Muslims are forbidden from eating pork in the Koran and staff were asked to remove the items. Click the link for the rest of the article.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I thought this article was intresting. <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/001/1.32.html" target="_blank">http://www.christianitytoday.c om/ct/2002/001/1.32.html</a> <<<Other Religions Home > Christianity Today Magazine > Churches & Ministries > Other Religions Christianity Today, January 7, 2002 Is Islam a religion of peace? The controversy reveals a struggle for the soul of Islam. By James A. Beverley | posted 12/28/2001 Osama bin Laden, the world's most notorious terrorist, has handed Muslims everywhere their worst public-relations nightmare: September 11 as a picture, an embodiment, of Islam. Muslims now have to define themselves in relation to the day of infamy. Abdulaziz Sachedina, a Muslim scholar at the University of Virginia, says he does not remember ever praying so earnestly that God would spare Muslims the blame for "such madness that was unleashed upon New York and Washington . …I felt the pain and, perhaps for the first time in my entire life, I felt embarrassed at the thought that it could very well be my fellow Muslims who had committed this horrendous act of terrorism. How could these terrorists invoke God's mercifulness and compassion when they had, through their evil act, put to shame the entire history of this great religion and its culture of toleration?" Click the link for the rest of the article.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Another one. <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg120402.asp" target="_blank">http://www.nationalreview.com/ goldberg/goldberg120402.asp</a> <<Religion of Peace? Prove it. If every German I meet or see is a Nazi, it's reasonable for me to say all Germans are Nazis. It may not be true, of course, but having no evidence indicating otherwise it's certainly understandable that I would draw that conclusion. If, however, I constantly hear Germans condemn Nazism and anything which remotely resembles Nazism, if I see them repudiating German Nazis, and working to repair the damage done by German Nazis, it would be outrageously unfair and malicious for me to say all Germans are Nazis. Now, under both hypothetical circumstances, the actual number of Germans who are Nazis can remain the same. The only difference is what the non-Nazi Germans do. As the saying goes, all that evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Click the link for the rest of the article.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Another <a href="http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=6431" target="_blank">http://www.frontpagemag.com/ar ticles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=6431</a> <<Symposium: Islam, a Religion of Peace or War? Part I By Jamie Glazov FrontPageMagazine.com | March 4, 2003 While threats of terrorist actions startle Americans as the nation rumbles forward toward war with Iraq, a crucial question surfaces: are Western security interests now threatened by militant Islam or, indeed, by Islam itself? Is the terrorism now threatening the West just headed by Muslim extremists, or is there something within Islam itself that spawns and nurtures an impending “clash of civilizations� The debate continues to rage: is it possible for Islam to liberalize itself and live at peace with, and within, the democratic and modern world? Click the link for the rest of the article.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom And this from the Pope. <a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45449" target="_blank">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n ews/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45449</a> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <<Pope won't call Islam religion of peace 'I would not like to use big words to apply generic labels' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: July 26, 2005 1:00 a.m. Eastern © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com Pope Benedict XVI yesterday refused to declare Islam "a religion of peace." Asked by reporters whether Islam could be considered a religion of peace shortly before entering a meeting with priests and deacons of Valle d'Aosta in northwest Italy where he is spending a brief holiday, the pontiff refused to reply positively. "I would not like to use big words to apply generic labels," he replied. "It certainly contains elements that can favor peace, it also has other elements: We must always seek the best elements." Click the link for the rest of the article.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Beau this is your claim, so I believe that you are the one who should answer this question. Where are the passages in the Koran that brainwash people into killing innocents? I'd like to know these specific passages, not a generalization, please.>> Sherry, you were the one on here trying to portray certain Muslims as victims. Then others came on here and called me hateful. Ignorance is so cute. I can answer my own question because I know a lot about Islam. But the people who defend this death cult need to answer it themselves. 3 questions.... Why do people in Islam who read the Koran OFTEN come to the conclusion that murdering non believers is perfectly fine and even encouraged by many, many, many Islamic leaders? Why are Christians who read the bible NOT killing people in the name of God as a standard practice? Why does the left instinctively defend Islam and attack Christians?
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Originally Posted By MomofPrincess I think CCJ has a point that people are set in their ways and nothing is going to change their mind. That's pretty much why I try to stay out of these discussions; I could get blue in the face (or in the fingers ;-) but what I say differently really isn't going to do anything more than irritate the people who don't agree with me. There's no point in debating a lot of this stuff, really - at least, not in my opinion. Each of us thinks we're perfeclty right!
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I agree but its pretty difficult to argue with the facts. And the fact are the Muslims are killing people throughout the world in the name of Allah. Even the Pope will not call Islam "A religion of Peace".
Originally Posted By AZDLDad KT- I cannot make all Christians (Protestants/Crusaders) peace-loving anymore than I can expect Muslims to police all of their different sects. We ALL live in this Fallen World! We have a choice on which path to choose. Christ then chose me, and it's my job to share His message and allow the Holy Spirit to win over their hearts.
Originally Posted By sherrytodd It is not the religion. It is the condition that the people live in. They are brought up on war and violence due to abuses of their governments and leaders. That makes them susceptible to these extremist groups. I have yet to hear from anyone what the magic words are in the Koran which convince people to go kill innocent people. The quotes that I have heard were cut from the full passages to change their meaning, and when read in the full text, do not have the same meaning. It is the abuses of the people in power which have lead to this. When people are in a weakened state they are prime picking for this type of brain-washing. These extremist groups have desecrated the real religion for their own greed and ambitions of power. They are no different then cult leaders who lead their flocks to murder and suicide. If the Muslim faith is as you describe, why aren't the Muslims from the US flocking to join in the fight? It's because, due to their fortune, they are not susceptible to the rhetoric of these false prophets, unlike the people who see their families and loved ones tortured and killed daily. Do not forget that there are real people over there. If you had lived their life, you're views may be different. Take away your comforts and even your basic needs, and any human will respond in a more animalistic way, regardless of your initial religions belief. I absolutely do not condone the killing, so don't you dare post that sherrytodd is pro-blowing up pregnant women again. It makes me sick to see innocent people slaughtered, but even more so, I do not condone the abuses of power which have led to the brain-washing of these people. There are countless people who are wandering lost in the Middle East right now, and they are prime-pickings for these extremists groups. The solution is not to wipe all Muslims from the face of the earth in a mass-genecide. The solution is to give the world means to survive and flourish and wipe away those who would prey on the weak. I don't expect this to change anyone's opinion. They are too far ingrained to be changed by one internet posting. It is simply my view.
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