Originally Posted By DlandDug Hmmm. Sounds like some Urban Legends to me. There were multiple sponsors for Dateline Disneyland, not just Pepsi. And yes, Walt was able to broker a very rare deal-- both Coke and Pepsi were in Disneyland. Coke was on Main Street and Pepsi was in the Golden Horseshoe. Walt was criticized for the lack of drinking fountains. I have read that he actually hired costumed performers to carry around water to serve to the guests. I have never heard that Pepsi was blamed for the lack of drinking fountains. I have also never heard there were pay toilets in Disneyland. According to Dick Nunis, they were planned, but Walt scuttled them before the place opened.
Originally Posted By Pollyana Whatever the case may be....I wish Disney would contract the drinks to Pepsi again,,sigh....
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Coke was on Main Street and Pepsi was in the Golden Horseshoe.> Coke was also the sponsor of TL Terrace, no?
Originally Posted By Longhorn12 Coke here... Pepsi is small time... I can't stand pepsi, and besides everything to me is coke...except Dr Pepper
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <except Dr Pepper> I think Coke Corner was the first place I ever had (or even saw) Mr. Pibb, Coke's blatant rip of Dr. Pepper. Seriously, is that even bottled? Or just sold at fountains where Coca-Cola products are served?
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Coke was also the sponsor of TL Terrace, no?<< There was no TL Terrace when Disneyland opened. Today Coke is it in all Disneyland food outlets, including the Tomorrowland Terrace.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance "I have also never heard there were pay toilets in Disneyland. According to Dick Nunis, they were planned, but Walt scuttled them before the place opened." I read it in a couple different books. *shrugs* Check the Disneyland Encyclopedia under bathrooms.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <There was no TL Terrace when Disneyland opened.> I know that. <Today Coke is it in all Disneyland food outlets, including the Tomorrowland Terrace.> I know that too. What I meant, is that in the late 60's/70's, when Pepsi still sponsored the GHR, and Coke still sponsored Coke Corner, I think Coke ALSO sponsored the TL Terrace.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt ^^That is correct. I think that Pepsi also sponsored the Casa de Fritos, which is now Rancho del Zocalo.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Check the Disneyland Encyclopedia under bathrooms.<< Not saying there weren't pay toilets in DIsneyland-- just saying I'd never heard of them. I did check the Disneyland Encyclopedia under "Restrooms," where the claim is made that they were removed starting in 1956. Bear in mind, though, that this book is not an official publication. (In point of fact, it says there are "500 A-to-Z Entries" on the front cover. The final entry in the book is "Yumz." I'm only sayin'...) (And for "Z" the author needed look no further than the middle of Frontierland...!)
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Casa de Fritos was sponsored by Fritos..." And Frito Lay is owned by Pepsi Cola.
Originally Posted By TP2000 Hans, were you not paying attention in Corporate History Class?!? In 1955 Fritos, as an early Disneyland sponsor, was still a privately owned company that made Fritos just as the founder C.E. Doolin had done since 1932. Fritos merged with the Lay potato chip company in 1961 to become Frito-Lay. Casa De Fritos at Disneyland was 6 years old by then. It wasn't until 1965, Disneyland's Tencenial year, that Pepsi-Cola entered into merger discussions with the succesful Frito-Lay company. In June, 1965 the merged companies were joined under the new "PepsiCo" banner. Although at Disneyland the brands were still known in Frontierland as simply Fritos as the sponsor of Casa De Fritos and Pepsi-Cola as the sponsor of the Golden Horseshoe Saloon. So until 1965 the two products, Fritos and Pepsi, were totally unrelated at the corporate level. They just happened to come together in a convenient way for their respective Disneyland sponsorships. Similarly, long-term Disneyland sponsors Stouffers and Carnation Ice Cream also were brought under the same corporate umbrella when Nestle' bought them both in the 1970's. Nestle' also owns Haagen-Dazs, whose most succesful retail outlet happens to be in Anaheim's Downtown Disney.
Originally Posted By SFH Even official company sources don't always get every detail about company history right. Especially when the person presented as the author of a book is writing about theme park stuff but was based in Burbank his entire career. I know this because details I have witnessed myself have been flubbed in books.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Thanks geek report TP2000. All that may be true, but I seem to recall that at one time (at least in the late 70s and 80s) the restaurant's sponsorship was stated as "presented by Pepsi Cola/Frito Lay". In any case, as the parent of Fritos, Pepsi was served there rather than Coke.
