Originally Posted By tashajilek Im cool with a new coaster. Cant really get a huge coaster fix at Disneyland, so hopefully it will be a good one.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Good riddance! The only point this ever had, was just to get drenched from head to toe .. in one 10 second thrill. Sort of Maliboomer Meets GRR! And I hate both for similar "Perilous Plunge" reasons. So .. I can only hope what goes into this place .. is perhaps a large showbuilding .. that also consumes the Beary-Tales building .. into one large new family-friendly dark ride .. with modern special effects! I do remember there was a Dolphin Show before it. And at one stage the area was Gypsy Camp ... but I can't seem to remember what was there in between. A spinner of sorts? Anyone remember??
Originally Posted By oc_dean Oh, nevermind .... I just found out through this 1976 map - <a href="http://www.themeparkreview.com/parks/photo.php?pageid=345&linkid=4146" target="_blank">http://www.themeparkreview.com...kid=4146</a> I see the spinner to the right .. but nestled against the Beary-Tales building .. I can't seem to make out what that is. Some sort of stage?
Originally Posted By oc_dean The coaster idea is completely ludicrous! I thought this is exactly what Matt is trying to avoid - The further Six-Flagsification of Knott's. They already ruined the front with NOW 4 coasters .. all intertwining each other. It's a spaghetti mess of coasters! Then there's the pointless Pony Express which is too short. There's already boomerang .. not to mention the coaster that replaced Eddie Sotto's old ride, the woodie toward the front .. So .. I think YET ANOTHER coaster is INSANE! And just plain - STUPID! If you want an all coaster park - go to Magic Mountain!!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <I see the spinner to the right .. but nestled against the Beary-Tales building .. I can't seem to make out what that is. Some sort of stage?> The spinner is either the Whirlwind or the Wheeler Dealer Bumper Cars. Right next to Beary Tales (same building, really) was an arcade. And that small structure to the right was, yes, a stage I think.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 You will be punished for that. Oh yes, you will be punished severely. (Seriously, ROTFLMAO).
Originally Posted By Manfried We should rename Knott's to reflect it being a Spaghetti Western of Coasters, something like: "The Confusing, The Bad and the Ugly."
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Heck, the Good the Bad and the Ugly would have worked just fine, when they had Ghost Rider, Windjammer and Boomerang simultaneously (and respectively). (Or did they take down Windjammer before Boomerang went in? I've found since the CF takeover that I do not need to go to Knotts on every CA trip, or even very often at all. Hopefully that will change after a few years of Ouimet.)
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>The spinner is either the Whirlwind or the Wheeler Dealer Bumper Cars. << Wheeler Dealer Bumper Cars .. is over to the LEFT of the Beary-Tales showbuilding. <a href="http://www.knotts.com/images/uploads/image/Knott%27s-Park-Guide.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.knotts.com/images/u...uide.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By brotherdave Boomerang was installed in 1990 and was there when the Soap Box Derby Racers were still there. (I really miss that ride!)
Originally Posted By oc_dean On closer inspection with this map - <a href="http://www.vintagedisneylandtickets.com/knottsmaps/knotts%201979_map.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.vintagedisneylandti..._map.jpg</a> It seems it was a stage for live entertainment. So now we have a timeline on the area: 1941-1970 section of GHOST TOWN 1971-1974 GYPSY CAMP 198?-1999 PACIFIC PAVILION - Dolphin+Seal show 2000-2012 - PERILOUS PLUNGE the future - ????? I have to say how utterly stupid some sites are, that claim to have Knott's Berry Farm's history down .. when they don't EVEN note Gypsy Camp's dates or even it's existence! Try getting the date of the Pacific Pavilion, which I finally gave up on! Nobody knows! Even so called Knott's history buffs from one site to the next don't even mention it! I'd love to know where I can get a correct timeline on EVERYTHING in Knott's.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Screwed up my little timeline for the area - edit: 1941-1970 section of GHOST TOWN 1971-1974 GYPSY CAMP 1975-198? WHIRLWIND + STAGE VENUE 198?-1999 PACIFIC PAVILION - Dolphin+Seal show 2000-2012 - PERILOUS PLUNGE 201?-____ - ??????
Originally Posted By oc_dean Aside from what specifically goes next in this area ... The question of what style theming do they make the structure. They have left the "Roaring '20s" theming intact for this area of the park, for a longtime now. Even when they made the switch to the more modern hip+edgy 'Beach-Surfer' motif .. it remains. But for how long? I'd like to assume .. whatever they do - They shoot for a timeless, classic theme. Do they transform the area to something that more resembles GHOST TOWN? What about revisiting "Gypsy Camp" thematic detailing? But this time .. backing it up .. with a MUST SEE attraction. I remember walking through .. and thinking the area looked cool. But there was no interesting ride in those caves. It was either a shop or a facade with Western Ave. just behind it. No wonder why it shuttered just after 4 years! <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/79761301@N00/391822997/sizes/l/in/photostream/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/7...ostream/</a> Well .. whatever they do ... they need to stay away from the modern surfy-beachy style ... more over to the right ... There's nothing classic or timeless about that area .. and my prediction .. will go at some point - Just like everything else before it.
Originally Posted By oc_dean A little more on Gypsy Camp history.... <a href="http://circusnospin.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/vintage-knotts-berry-farm-early-70s.html" target="_blank">http://circusnospin.blogspot.c...70s.html</a>
Originally Posted By oc_dean Oh this is trippy ... Perilous Plunge's location .... 41 years ago .... <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocarchives/4724923462/in/photostream/lightbox/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/o...ightbox/</a>
Originally Posted By oc_dean ^^^ from that same link ... If you want to go through some INCREDIBLE vintage shots of Knott's .. just start from here ... and click "older" (right) .... <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocarchives/4724928242/in/photostream/lightbox/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/o...ightbox/</a> And should be some 50 pics of Knott's through the years. And before my starting point .. and well after .. are some other INCREDIBLE vintage Orange County pics.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "Wheeler Dealer Bumper Cars .. is over to the LEFT of the Beary-Tales showbuilding." Cool. I knew the WDBC and the Whirlwind were on either side of KBT, but I couldn't remember which side each was on. Great pics of old Knotts, Dean.
