Pete Docter has done it again.....

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    Originally Posted By leemac

    <<Marty Sklar (who seemed to actually be pretty egalitarian as a leader)>>

    Anything but!!

    If you weren't a favorite of Marty's you had no hope of winning projects or progressing internally. He consolidated his power base over years and the dynamic shifted towards the creative execs controlling the whole of WDI. Fanbois might love that but it isn't good for business when the non-creative (largely engineering and delivery side) is sidelined.

    Marty treated a lot of folks very badly. Some of his memos are world-famous internally - truly evil and bitchy comments about fellow CMs and their work. I've seen a few and you couldn't imagine any business leader sending something comparable. They were caustic, rude and inappropriate.

    I didn't shed a tear when he was shoved out. A political animal that caused a lot of problems at WDI. He also wasn't a great creative - a very average show writer but he had no ability to create attractions.
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    >>John has never been a great story guy - he relied heavily on Joe Ranft to rejig his projects.<<

    Interesting. I know that he claims Toy Story as his baby, and everybody seems to love the film, but it never really did much for me (though the sequels are better). I know Joe Ranft did a great unsung job of keeping things together, but I never realized he played that much of a role with the stories

    And I agree that Lassiter could probably benefit from some time away from work. I've heard stories of him at the bar at the Grand Floridian (not to mention his own winery in Napa) and he sounds like quite the party guy. With all the Cars stuff, he always talked about how he was inspired by his sons, but I've always wondered about that, given how dedicated he seems to be to his work. If nothing else, he sure is an interesting character, and a fashion icon in his own right (no matter how regrettable that fashion may be)

    >>The joys of Disney politics. Players change but the games remain the same.<<

    I imagine it's pretty much the same anywhere, especially when there's a big creative component. Whoever the boss likes best is going to get the best treatment
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    >>Fanbois might love that but it isn't good for business when the non-creative (largely engineering and delivery side) is sidelined.<<

    I've suspected this was the trend, but never knew for sure. I recently listened to an interview of Tony Baxter talking about various projects he'd done (mostly DLP, Indy, and TL98), and while it was very clear that he was an incredibly creative guy, it was also pretty clear that he didn't have a technical background at all. Similarly, it's been very easy to see which side has had control with recent project like Carsland and MK's Fantasyland, which fall into the "all sizzle but no steak" category for me

    Part of what makes WDI so interesting to me (in theory at least) as an engineer is how it traditionally combines various disciplines that aren't usually put together. It has the potential for some really great stuff, as we've seen in the past. However, when the wrong people get too much control, it also leads to projects that are underwhelming (Fantasyland expansion), overbudget (Carsland), or just plain don't work right (Luigi's). The creative stuff is what makes something exciting, but creatives aren't known for being good with numbers or technical information. It's a shame that things have gotten out of balance, since it seems clear to me that WDI has the talent to do some great stuff if they were structured well and given the right resources

    >>Marty treated a lot of folks very badly. Some of his memos are world-famous internally - truly evil and bitchy comments about fellow CMs and their work.<<

    Wow, I had no idea; that sounds incredibly unprofessional. It's a wonder that he ever lasted that long, but I guess creative industries have a different set of standards than the rest of us
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    When I sat there with tears streaming down my face during the short "Lava" I knew I was doomed. Inside Out was funny, smart, creative. I can't remember the last time I felt compelled to go back to a theater to see a movie a second time, but I will definitely be seeing this one again.

    And how about the musical score for this film? It doesn't jump out and announce itself or overpower, but perfectly compliments what's happening on screen.
     
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    Originally Posted By CuriousConstance

    OMG, Lava!!!!! Did not dissapoint. I can't get that song out of my head. And that's a good thing.

    Unfortunately, I can't really comment on Inside Out. My song got really sick during the movie and we had to leave early. :( Turns out he has strep throat, so we'll have to go back and finish it some time.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    >>OMG, Lava!!!!! Did not dissapoint. I can't get that song out of my head. And that's a good thing. <<

    Me too. The volcano was instantly endearing and I don't know what it is about that song but man it got me from the first notes. Hope you get back to see Inside Out soon after your son is feeling better, CC!
     
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    Originally Posted By CuriousConstance

    Thanks!!!

    I just realized I said my "Song" got really sick during the movie. lol

    By the way, the full Lava song is available on youtube, but you probably shouldn't listen to it and it would be a spoiler for anyone who hasn't seen the movie.

    <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f4BpGbVnDk">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...BpGbVnDk</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    What a wonderful film. I wish every single filmmaker were required to watch this. What are the stakes? Is it a nuclear bomb that's about to destroy a major city until a superhero steps in? Is it an earthquake that wipes out a city? Is it aliens that...wipe out a city?

    Nah, it's a twelve-year-old girl who misses home. That's it. Little girl experiences emotions. And it's a masterful film. It's just beautiful. Can't wait to see it again and take in even more. Will be pre-ordering the blu ray the second it's up on Amazon.
     
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    Originally Posted By utahjosh

    I'm seeing it just a couple of hours. I can't wait for this movie!

    I've had the Lava volcano as my desktop background for a year. My daughter often asks me to make the volcano sing - and I play the youtube clip released a while ago.
     
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    Originally Posted By CuriousConstance

    Since the little girl in the movie is my daughter's age, exactly, and Riley was beginning to show those first signs of pulling away from family in the film, and my daughter's going through the same thing, it really hits me in the heart.

    Aaaannnd hear come the tears.
     
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    Originally Posted By CuriousConstance

    HERE come the tears.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    SPOILER ALERT ------





    My daughter is an adult, but it rang very true to our experiences at that age. And it hit me for another reason, it kind of illustrated the memory loss my mother is going through with Alzheimer's disease. Seeing the various "lands" collapsing and memories turning to dust is very much what the disease does. Even though she was diagnosed a few years ago, she is still relatively "okay" day to day, but unable to remember things just moments after hearing them, and events that happened long ago have become distorted and/or forgotten. So that added another layer to the movie for me.
     
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    Originally Posted By utahjosh

    I loved it. Had my 5 year old daughter sitting with me, and I couldn't help but think of her.

    Just a fantastic movie. Everything about it was just about perfect.
     
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    Originally Posted By JeffG

    >> "By the way, the full Lava song is available on youtube" <<

    It is also the last track on the Inside Out soundtrack.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kidz-n-k9s

    Saw it yesterday and loved it too. I cried at Lava and then twice in the movie. My daughter is nearing 10, so I was thinking of her and what is in her mind as she nears Riley's age. Both of my kids, 7 yo boy and 9 yo girl, said they liked it. I'm a little worried that Anger was my son's favorite character (my daughter loves Joy).

    Did anyone without kids cry? A friend of mine that is nearing retirement age without kids did not cry.

    The movie did make me laugh too! My favorite was the wife's mind vs. the husband's mind at the dinner table. :D

    My husband and I picked up on the Haunted Mansion music, but that was the only Easter Egg we found.
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    >>My husband and I picked up on the Haunted Mansion music, but that was the only Easter Egg we found.<<

    That was great!

    I also noticed in Riley's list of Skype contacts was "Doc Pete."
     
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    Originally Posted By CuriousConstance

    "I'm a little worried that Anger was my son's favorite character "

    I think he's everyone's favorite character :)
     
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    Originally Posted By Yookeroo

    "Did anyone without kids cry?"

    Maybe.
     
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    Originally Posted By CuriousConstance

    Yookeroo, you old softy, you.
     
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    Originally Posted By phruby

    This movie definitely explains the behavior of our cats.
     

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