Originally Posted By mrkthompsn Apple does not manufacture in the USA mostly because the qualified labor simply isn't available. But also, their OEM parts are manufactured in Asia (China, Taiwan, Japan, Korea) They also like to make products there to stay under the aire of secrecy for deployments.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Apple wanted to build in the USA but we didn't have the manufacturing infrastructure to do it.
Originally Posted By andyll <<Apple does not manufacture in the USA mostly because the qualified labor simply isn't available. But also, their OEM parts are manufactured in Asia (China, Taiwan, Japan, Korea)>> Then why did they just open a plant in South American? ( I knew the same excuses would be offered )
Originally Posted By TomSawyer They didn't - their Chinese supplier Foxconn opened the plant in a deal with the Brazilian government.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>I don't see the majority of Americans saying they are willing to pay MORE for products amd sevices exclusively originating in the USA.<< The notion that Apple (or anyone else) is "passing the savings onto us" is bogus. They will price their wares according to what the market will bear.
Originally Posted By EdisYoda The thing to remember. Not only is about profits, but it's about how MUCH profit. And that that profit is increasing every year. If a company makes 10% profit, then they need to make 11% the next year, and 12% the next... and this keeps going. At some point this model falls apart. And we're starting to see that.
Originally Posted By andyll <<They didn't - their Chinese supplier Foxconn opened the plant in a deal with the Brazilian government. >> So what? The arguement was that the plants had to be in asia where the parts suppliers are.
Originally Posted By andyll So Brazil has high import taxes which caused the iphone to cost around $1500. These high prices is what global marketers claim would happen in the USA if we raised tariffs in imported goods. Of course the end result is that Apple opened a manufacturing plant in Brazil to lower their costs. The same would happen in the USA. Short term pain until the markets adjusted and moved manufacturing back the the USA. The funny thing is... even with Brazil phones being produced in Brazil the prices have not come down yet. I'm sure they will... slowly and probably not all the way. 100 Billion of offshore cash is not enough for Apple
Originally Posted By vbdad55 As someone who's been involved closely with offshoring for a major corporation since 1997, everything from the planning sessions, to the profit impact analysis and the actual movement/training - and subsequent 2nd offshoring waves.. anyone who tries to claim either rpolitical party is supporting this ( or more accurately turning a blind eye to ) is either severely misinformed, rooting for their party or lying. This is about labor costs, pure and simple as most of the 12-14 million ( correct #) white collar jobs moved are 'services' in nature. Sometimes hidden under the guise of a 'global economy' even though the teams there support business is the US and Europe., not an in country growth in sales or revenue. India and Brazil were the two major ports ( some Ireland/Canada roles also)- initially and SE asia ( singapore/ Vietnam and still parts of mainland China) the sweethearts now. I'll save more facts for someone who wants them, as I've posted on this before. Play with SHared Services fires and get burned eventually. My job finally went April 1 of this year ( I am now retired ) - and went to a Chinese replacement - with MBA for $16K per year. but to claim either party has ANY high moral ground is just wrong..neither gives a crap as long as the monies still flow to the lobbyists
Originally Posted By andyll <<but to claim either party has ANY high moral ground is just wrong..neither gives a crap as long as the monies still flow to the lobbyists>> I'll disagree with this. While there are plenty of democrats in bed with business it is in no way equal to the republican's. The the parties were equal in business support we would have no EPA, no corp tax, no tax on repatriating, no div tax, no Dodd banking law. Republican's would vote en-mass for those and it's the democrats that have held them back. In addition... there have been several attempts in Obama's administration to pass bills that penalize companies that outsource and reward companies that create onshore jobs and all have been shot down.
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Originally Posted By HRM Nothing like moving to a new page and finding out the post has been Admin'd.... Geeesh. ;-)
