Pirates 4 Baffling Box Office

Originally Posted By DDMAN26



<<Which is particularly pathetic given how well the previous three films did without the premium 3D ticket prices. I think it's time to pull the plug on this franchise and put Depp in a new genre.>>

Which if you add it to the 2.8 billion the previous three films made not including video and merchandising, it just makes adds icing to the cake.

 

Originally Posted By DDMAN26

<<Yup. "Tree of Life" and "Midnight in Paris>>

I like a good smaller art house film, but Midnight is Woody Allen, I never liked any of his films. And Tree of Life just looks like it's trying to hard to be artsy and self important.

Back to the topic

 

Originally Posted By skinnerbox

Love the Woodman, especially his earlier stuff. "Midnight in Paris" is Woody returning to his earlier comedy, like "Purple Rose of Cairo." I'm eagerly awaiting its arrival to SF this Friday.

 

Originally Posted By HokieSkipper

I think people in the US are souring on the franchise. When the first two sequels came out, all my friends and I went to the midnight showings.

This time? No one was even excited for it. I was mildly interested, but any time I brought up possibly checking it out I was instantly shot down.

I won't forget hearing groans of "Another one?" when the Super Bowl commercial came on.

 

Originally Posted By Autopia Deb

>>>and inadequate men driving fast cars<<<
Say what you will about the "Fast" franchise and his choice in projects, but Vin Diesel is *hardly* inadequate!

As for Pirates 4, we saw it yesterday (2D matinee) and had a good time. It's not as highly quotable as the first movie, but it's still fun and entertaining. I also didn't think the after credit bit was worth hanging around to see.

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

I have to admit, the more I think about PoC 4, the less I really think of it.

Maybe its reading all the lousy reviews after seeing the film ... but a lot of the comments really resonated with me. And I started thinking that maybe I didn't quite enjoy it as much as I wanted to.

Maybe it's just been Pirates overload for five years now. The first film was such a wonderful surprise, but now they just seem to be more of the same ...

Not bad at all ... but like a WDW theme park ... played out.

I can tell you this debut pretty much guarantees the two more films Disney wants to make ... but I just don't see what the reason is ... the series needs to change direction and not be more of the same.

 

Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

Sadly though, it has broken records on international debute with >$1/4 billion. So you know more will be made.

 

Originally Posted By -em

< went and saw P4 yesterday

I think the true question will be will it hang on for over a week/two at the Box Office? I can easily see it making its initial numbers as it does have a good "fan base" of both loyal and casual fans that'll plop down the cash to see it even if its horrible but itll be seen if that group either comes back or recommends it to non fans...

-em

 

Originally Posted By u k fan

I'm not sure I'd class 735 - 835 million as "pathetic". 835 million would make it the 25th highest grossing movie according to Box Office Mojo. 735 would be 40th. Taking into account 3D sales I would still say that POTC4 could be classed as as successful as POTC1 if it achieved that.

I don't think anyone predicted Dead Man's Chest type numbers did they, especially after At World's End?!!!

 

Originally Posted By brotherdave

To say that POTC4's numbers are "pathetic" is ridiculous. It still proves that Jack Sparrow has a very strong following. I think it's safe to say that number 5, and possibly number 6, are almost sure things.

 

Originally Posted By CuriousConstance

We saw it, and liked it quite a bit. I liked it more than the third.
I didn't think the 3d added anything at all to the movie though.

 

Originally Posted By dshyates

<<<Saw it yesterday

I enjoyed it. But found the storyline to be beyond simplistic. To demonstrate; the plot. Everyone is looking for The Fountain of Youth. No plot twists. No surprises.

But lets face it. We don't go see the Pirate movies for intricate plots. We go to see the quips, asides, and antics of some delightful characters we have grown to love. Jack and Barbossa are great characters played by great actors. And you can tell they are enjoying themselves. It's just fun to watch.

 

Originally Posted By wahooskipper

I'm not sure why it is a negative if they keep making them...even if one doesn't like them.

I mean, what is the downside? Apparently Depp and gang enjoy making them. The studio is making a ton of money.

What is the harm?

 

Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

I suppose the harm is if they do not make other movies instead. Or the reputation of brand quality diminishes, or it hits the revenues and affects what happens to the parks.

 

Originally Posted By wahooskipper

Well, if another Pirates will avoid the studio making Hall of Presidents, The Movie then maybe it is a service to us all.

I understand your points though. Disney does like to beat things into the ground (such as Who Wants to Be a Millionaire).

 

Originally Posted By DDMAN26

If anyone keeps asking why Disney keeps making Pirates movies? Just tell them 2.8 billion from the first three.

 

Originally Posted By planodisney

Its pretty simple. The last one was not good and extrmely hard to follow. People here just arent as excited anymore.
People overseas seem to realy like huge movies and Depp is huge over there.

 

Originally Posted By vbdad55

I do not think it's time to pull the plug. AS is typical everyone needs newer bigger faster - shinier..the attention span to tried and true is that of a gnat in the US right now. Critics who have panned this movie- I wonder if they actually saw it or had minions go.

No one is going to give academy awards out for this type of show ( although that's a whole other topic)- but what this movie is is pure entertainment. I found potc 4 better than 2,3 - not as good as 1.
It's as if something that is successful today ( like a movie franchise or good band - or great tv show whatever)- has to be torn down because we can't stand success. It's very sad.

it was more 'piratey' than the last two- which I consider a good thing. Plot is intersting enough with a few twists to keep ones attention, but not too complicated where one doesn;t know what the hell is going on. Jack is back to being the main character which works for me...Blackbeard an interesting addition and I think grounds the movie. . And as far as Mermaids- especially Serena- very nice addition

 

Originally Posted By DDMAN26

Domestically this will be a disappointment. It's projected to be at 152 million at the end of the weekend. With X-Men, Super 8 and Green Lantern coming to eat into it's audience. It will likely finish around 225 million. Where it's making most of its booty is international. Already it's made 470 million outside North America.

<a href="http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=piratesofthecaribbean4.htm" target="_blank">http://boxofficemojo.com/movie...ean4.htm</a>

 

Originally Posted By DlandDug

Hmm.

I am inclined to say that domestically this is a disappointment only compared to the other films in the franchise. As a stand alone property, it's solid. And the foreign numbers are fantastic. PotC 4 is now at 49 for all-time box office-- after just two weeks in release!