Originally Posted By Dabob2 I've never watched soaps, but we all sort of know their tropes, and I think (if they were talented) that having cm's come around and pretend to be "the jilted woman" or "the doctor with a big secret" and involving the diners in the goings-on could have been fun. Oh well, it's all moot now.
Originally Posted By jonvn "I don't know about that, but it did have a very limited demographic; women and gay guys into Soaps" That would make up over half the customer base. "Just look at how well the ESPN ZONE does." It's an entirely different sort of venue. That's a bad comparison.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> Disagree? << Yes, obviously some do. And when it comes to DCA, the rest is history. >> It doesn't sound all that appealing to me << But the brilliant minds responsible for DCA apparently thought otherwise. Even in retrospect, with the Bistro long gone (and good riddance), some of those geniuses still may proclaim, "well, SOB was ambitious and enjoyable." Merely another wonderful illustration that tight budgets were the least of all the problems facing DCA from Day One.
Originally Posted By jonvn Have you ever even been to SOB? I was there, and thought it was pretty neat, as it was set up like a TV studio. It was really a very good idea, too bad they punted on it.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 He probably wasn't, jon. Just once again considering his opinions the only "correct" ones.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher Once again, merely another wonderful illustration that tight budgets were the least of all the problems facing DCA from Day One.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Really? Six and a half long years later, you've got nothing more interesting than that to say? Wow. Some people liked SOB, liked the concept, enjoyed interacting with the cm's, etc. You think it was a bad idea. Fine. But you insist that your opinion is simply the truth. That's arrogant and pretentious in the extreme, like your posts in general. Me, I have no real opinion because I never saw the place or ate there (and unless you say differently, I don't think you did either). But I would never insist that my opinion was "the" opinion that one must hold.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher Once again, merely another wonderful illustration that tight budgets were the least of all the problems facing DCA from Day One.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Once again an illustration that you lack the ability to respond to what is actually written here (for instance, not even addressing whether you actually saw the place or not), and merely fall back on the same motheaten 4 or 5 stock phrases that passed their shelf life circa 2002. And still actually think that's clever.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher Once again, merely another wonderful illustration that tight budgets were the least of all the problems facing DCA from Day One.
Originally Posted By jonvn You have to stop responding to these people, dude. They are just out of their minds, don't know what they are talking about, and just aren't worth bothering with. As I said, I was at the SOB. It was cool. Unfortunately, they tossed the idea, but it was a very good one. It's an idea that works well in WDW, but with a slightly different subject matter. I mean, it really is pretty unreasonable to rail against something that you've never seen, have no idea about or anything. Just pointless to even discuss it with them. I realize you want to, but it serves no purpose, because some people are not interested in discussing anything, they're interested in lord knows what....
Originally Posted By disneywatcher And even more telling illustrations of the fact that tight budgets were the least of all the problems facing DCA from Day One. One can only imagine what the office politics surrounding a project like DCA would be like if the egos, paychecks and job security of people in Disney fandom were directly on the line.