Originally Posted By pixiedust1 I was so so disappointed with Stitch Encounter's A Alien ... or whatever it's called.. wow... it was bad.. walking around the Fixin's Bar at Cosmic Ray's with my burger is getting more exciting them some of the rides at Tommorrow Land.. even more dangerous then Mission Space..
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Yes. Let's have a monument to all the wonderful attractions that were replaced by sub-par new ones INSTEAD of building new ones.>> You really don't NEED to go there if you hate it so freakin' much. Test Track and Soarin' are probably the two most popular attractions at Epcot. Please explain to me how they are sub-par. Why don't you nay-sayers go back to complaining about DCA. At least we expect it over there.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney Roadtrip, calm down. Step off that ledge before you fall. I'd appreciate it if you read what I wrote and commented on that instead of making things up. I never mentioned one word about Soarin and Test Track. I enjoy Soarin a great deal and certainly think it's an improvement over Food Rocks. As for Test Track, I think it's OK but very overrated. It's not something I ride regularly and am at the park all the time. I happen to have enjoyed the old WoM far more than a quickee ride thru an empty show building and a loop in a convertible. If you enjoy it, I'm thrilled for you. I happen to LUV Epcot so please don't assume because you make an ... but mostly yourself.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I'd appreciate it if you read what I wrote and commented on that instead of making things up.>> I read what you wrote, and it sounds very negative to me. <Yes. Let's have a monument to all the wonderful attractions that were replaced by sub-par new ones INSTEAD of building new ones.>> The only replacement attraction that is sub-par to what it replaces is JIYI. And I'm just giving the consensus opinion on that because I never thought the first one was much good either. I enjoy Test Track considerably more than I ever enjoyed WoM. I did love Horizons, but my understanding is that the building was literally falling apart. It had to be replaced with something. And as much as I loved Horizons, I think Mission Space is a far superior attraction. So I can think of just ONE instance where your comment makes sense... so where does ALL THE WONDERFUL ATTRACTIONS come from? Seems like just one to me.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney Original Imagination replaced by two inferior replacements. Net negative. Magic Journeys replaced by Captain Eo replaced by Honey I Shrunk the Audience. Net two negatives. Original ImageWorks replaced by smaller, inferior replacement. Net negative. Living Seas seacabs and movie closed for years. Relacement coming this year. Net negative, might change. Symbiosis replaced with Circle of Life. Net negative. Food Rocks replaced by Soarin: Net positive. UoE replaced by Ellen's Energy Adventure: Net equal. Horizons replaced by Mission Space. Net negative. If MS was part of a whole space pavillion it would be a positive. WoL, closed with no replacement. Net minimum three negatives (one for each major attraction gone). WoM replaced by TT. Net negative. Does that help, Roady?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Well, if that's your opinion. In my opinion the only negative was JIYI. I like HISTA more than either of the two prior shows. Image Works for me has always been an ehhh anyway. Doesn't make me much difference. Turtle Talk with Crush beats that crummy 30 second Sea Cab ride any day. Films in The Land... I really can't say which one I prefer. They are both message films with nice music. WoM and Horizons... I like the replacements better; you don't. Just a matter of taste. But if you look at the Test Track lines, it is clearly more popular than WoM ever was. Even Mission Space draws considerably more people that Horizons did its last few years. WoL... I'm waiting. Can't say the replacement is better or worse until we know what it is. If stay empty for more than another year or so, then I would agree with you.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I enjoy Test Track considerably more than I ever enjoyed WoM. < me too !
Originally Posted By Skellington88 Luvdat Disney..I couldnt tell by your post but Captain EO was the best 3D movie Disney ever made so you can't count that as a negative. HISTA sucks though.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 The problem is Test Track amd Mission Space are poorly made rides with no themeing in barebone warehouses. I come to Disney to see immersive environments, sophisticated AA's, and things I can't see in the real world. Wonders of Life and Horizons took me out of the real world...Test Track and Mission space don't.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 So far the only change that has honestly been an improvement was The Land redo last year where they removed Food Rocks and replaced it with Soarin' and updated the pavillion. The Living Seas upgrade may be good...I like that there freshining up the pavillion and brining back the seacabs and turning it into a longer true dark ride now. However, I hate the fact that its yet another Pixar tie-in. At worst the redone Living Seas pavillion will be a WASH pun intended.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I come to Disney to see immersive environments, sophisticated AA's, and things I can't see in the real world.>> Cool... go to the Magic Kingdom. That's what it is all about. Epcot is an entirely different bird. Whether it is the re-creations of foreign settings in the World Showcase or the review of man's history found in Spaceship Earth and the Energy Adventure, Epcot is all about REALITY... not make believe and animatronics. It seems some of you folks can't accept any Disney park that falls outside the Magic Kingdom model. Get over it... expand your mind and accept the endless possibilities.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 See I think Test Track does a fine job of showing the testing types done by GM in their proving grounds -- no it does not have have any AA's - and they would be way cool -- but again like Trippy said, EPCOT is not the MK --
Originally Posted By hopemax >Epcot is all about REALITY This is exactly my problem with Mission: Space. In real life we are sending robots to Mars, and finding water - the key requirement of life. We know what Mars looks like because color images are being sent back to Earth. But yet what do people post/talk about...it all boils down to "did you get sick and how long were you out of commission." It's my same problem with Expedition: Everest. Disney sends a team to the Himalayas, they discover new species and yet all that we talk about is the roller coaster part. I guess, in the queue, there are some displays with the new species information. A friend, who works with Imagineering...he thought they were fake. Blew me away, because he's always complaining that no one looks at the little, hidden details the imagineers incorporate. And now the Living Seas is becoming one, "Oh, look it's Nemo and Dory and Crush, isn't he so totally cool, dude...'cha'" and what happens to the real world science/discovery of the oceans of the world? It might as well be the Magic Kingdom
Originally Posted By NJFIREGUY <<Luvdat Disney..I couldnt tell by your post but Captain EO was the best 3D movie Disney ever made>> Ok Lets Clear this up First Any Attraction that Give the feeling of MICHAEL JACKSON Being able to "Reach Out and Touch You" IS NOT A GOOD THING....And In Many States would Require a MEGANS LAW registration. To agree with Luvdatdisney...Yes I too Lament The Loss of Horizons, WOM, And the original JIYI and Image works ( I think your Strecthing with Magic journeys) That Doesnt mean i dont love the replacements I just would have prefered "In Addition to" Not "Instead of" but you gotta except the change As Ive said before Horizons, Wom, They werent closed because disney security had problems with crowd control.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 man your ignorant..it turned out the whole Micheal Jackson molests people was fake...the people accusing him were well know fraude artists and tehy just took advantage of him because they knew he was too weak to fight back. Jackson may be a wierdo and an odd eccentric but he doesnt "touch people". Captain EO rocked and a large number of people will agree with me on that.
Originally Posted By hopemax Just me rambling again...my favorite part of Turtle Talk...when Crush talks about how you get girl and boy turtles. I bet every kid who sees that show will remember that "dudes are cool, and chicks are totally hot." It's real science that will stick in kids brains because Crush is fun. Crush wearing the bikini...yeah it gets a laugh, but then what?
Originally Posted By Skellington88 Crush sucks. Nemo is the most childish unoffensive thing I have ever seen. Its like Fox & The Hound. Disney is all about epic action, adventure, humor, romance, bada$$ villians, etc. etc. not dumb looking fish and charecters with lame names like "mr.ray" geez they didnt even try with that one.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> Wonders of Life and Horizons took me out of the real world...Test Track and Mission space don't. << Interesting. I think they both do this. Certainly at a different pace than the original attractions, but they do do it.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> Test Track amd Mission Space are poorly made rides with no themeing in barebone warehouses << Pretty bold statements. I would challenge both. Again, both are paced quite differently from the originals. But that doesn't equate to "no theming" or "barebones."
