Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<And guess what Spirit happened to be there today? >> <<And if you'd look skywards about 45 stories you would have seen me. You were at Elements you were uber-close to me today.>> REALLY?!??! ... Maybe you were stalking the Spirit? ;-) Please don't tell me you were at HKDL this afternoon/evening ... or that you'll be at HKG tomorrow or dining at BLT Wednesday ... or that you'll be in Tokyo say next week.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Please don't tell me you were at HKDL this afternoon/evening ... or that you'll be at HKG tomorrow or dining at BLT Wednesday ... or that you'll be in Tokyo say next week.>> Nope - Causeway Bay today. I'm still here in the old colony for the rest of this week. Absolutely no idea where I'll be next week! I'm like the Littlest Hobo - I go where I'm needed! )) And I should be in bed by now......
Originally Posted By TokyoMack I've clicked through this thread, but can't seem to find the info. . . The Mannequins building is still there in the concept art. What is it becoming?!
Originally Posted By MousDad 332 Comments, and counting, on the Official Parks Blog, 95%+ of which are clamouring for the Adventurer's Club, a large chunk of whom appear to be guests who travel with family on vacation. ("Our guests demanded a more family-friendly experience." ROFLMAO) One of the great mysteries of Disney Fandom is how a company, which so gregariously and obnoxiously panders to customers' emotional connections to their product (think DVC, current and past marketing campaigns/celebrations, D23, retro-merchandising, etc.) is so quick to squelch that connection (like a giant, booted foot slamming down on a defenseless insect in a gut-splattering flash of force) whenever it encroaches on the Holy of Holies otherwise known as "business sense." [the above paragraph was lovingly dedicated to Mr. X]
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Definitely don't agree with you there Hokie. PI attracted a lot of the expense account crowd and could be a very unpleasant place to be - particularly for families. You don't typically see that crowd at Epcot as their goal is solely to get drunk - and park admission is a lot of beer. -------------------- thanks Lee- for some reason these are those who refuse to acknowledge this. I'm not even criticizing those who caused issues- it was the placement that was bad IMHO also.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>One of the great mysteries of Disney Fandom is how a company, which so gregariously and obnoxiously panders to customers' emotional connections to their product (think DVC, current and past marketing campaigns/celebrations, D23, retro-merchandising, etc.) is so quick to squelch that connection (like a giant, booted foot slamming down on a defenseless insect in a gut-splattering flash of force) whenever it encroaches on the Holy of Holies otherwise known as "business sense." <<< It shows that they only go for what is immediately profitable to them. And risk free. If the can find a way to bring the AC back under those circumstances, they prolly will.
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Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<thanks Lee- for some reason these are those who refuse to acknowledge this.>> I'm not "refusing" anything. I'm taking the evidence that is given to me and that I've experienced and coming to a conclusion. <<I'm not even criticizing those who caused issues- it was the placement that was bad IMHO also.>> My point isn't who got it closed, it's that the drinking argument is a bogus one when every day you can find a bunch of drunk idiots walking around Epcot. Hell, you can find a bunch of drunk idiots who came from Epcot in the Magic Kingdom. I had plenty of them on my boats every night. Make WS dry! It's scarring the little ones at the Magic Kingdom that are waiting in a 3 hour line to meet a princess!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <<thanks Lee- for some reason these are those who refuse to acknowledge this.>> I'm not "refusing" anything. I'm taking the evidence that is given to me and that I've experienced and coming to a conclusion. ------- however you choose to ignore other first hand experiences contrary to your own. I am sure there were some nights much less of an issue than others..but I can tell you from years of experience also weekends were not good. If 25% of the time it was a bad experience that is too much for where it is - IMHO
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Make WS dry! It's scarring the little ones at the Magic Kingdom that are waiting in a 3 hour line to meet a princess! -------------- yep snide sarcasm helps support your case.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 I am not anti-drinking. But I don't understand why some people feel they have to have a drink to have a good time.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer The only thing I have against drunk peeps are when they get loud, rude, and start screaming obscenities. If you wanna get drunk, that's fine, but keep it to yourself. Don't ruin my vacation with your distasteful way of acting. And Hyperion Wharf. I'm bored with it. LOL.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I am not anti-drinking. But I don't understand why some people feel they have to have a drink to have a good time. >> Most people don't. But most people like to. I'm 22 years old. When a park closes at 9(or 5 if you're talking about DAK), I want to go somewhere where I can have fun with people my own age and have a few drinks. Right now there's basically 0 places to do that at Disney that also include that "Disney" touch.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<yep snide sarcasm helps support your case.>> Snide sarcasm helps support EVERY cause. And I wonder why my other post got admined? I had no cuss words or abusive language in there. Hmmmm.....must have hit too close to the mark for a Disney ninja...
Originally Posted By dshyates Screamscape has posted some interesting rumors: "A Screamscape source tells me that along with the introduction of the Hyperion Wharf concept to Downtown Disney, there are also plans in the works to add a small trolley system to run along the lengthy complex, very similar to what is being added to the California Adventure park. There are likely to be a few other changes as well down at the West End. I’m hearing that House of Blues may be planning to leave Disney property entirely in the future, in favor of setting themselves up off-site in a new location. If this happens, look for Harley Davidson to move into the former HOB digs. Meanwhile the Mouse has plans in the works for the nearby Virgin Megastore building that would see it redesigned as a cluster of smaller high-end shops. I’m also being told that Cirque is currently planning a whole new show to eventually replace the long running La Nouba show in 2013, around the same time as the rest of Hyperion Wharf, taking advantage of it as the right time to relaunch themselves along with the rest of Downtown Disney." <a href="http://www.screamscape.com/html/walt_disney_world_resort.htm#Downtown" target="_blank">http://www.screamscape.com/htm...Downtown</a>
Originally Posted By vbdad55 The only thing I have against drunk peeps are when they get loud, rude, and start screaming obscenities. If you wanna get drunk, that's fine, but keep it to yourself. Don't ruin my vacation with your distasteful way of acting ---------------- well said
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Most people don't. But most people like to. I'm 22 years old. When a park closes at 9(or 5 if you're talking about DAK), I want to go somewhere where I can have fun with people my own age and have a few drinks. -------------------- totally understandable at 22 ( I have kids older than you) - it changes as you get older...however when I was 22 and wanted to drink, I did not want to be in a place where there were kids/families all around.
Originally Posted By GOB No one in our family goes clubbing or to bars and lounges, so we always saw PI as irrelevant. As a family, I would say that we are extremely likely to check out Hyperion Wharf. However, that's just anecdotal. Obviously, Disney is neglecting a demographic by not having a nightlife district. It's irrelevant to me, but the need is there. Unfortunately Disney is failing to provide for the young adults demographic (unless they're part of a family, the lowest common denominator). To be honest, I'm excited by Hyperion Wharf. It may in fact just be a mall with a nice facade and theme, but we're surely more likely to visit a glorified mall than a nightclub complex, and I guess that's what Disney is aiming for. I love the theme (even if it is redundant), and I'm excited that it will have some nice features and open up the waterfront. The fact that Disney is leasing to third parties doesn't really bother me. If it was Disney-operated merchandise, we'd probably see the same crap that you could find at any shop at WDW. If it was a Disney-operated food service location, who is to say it would be better than a third party?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<totally understandable at 22 ( I have kids older than you) - it changes as you get older...however when I was 22 and wanted to drink, I did not want to be in a place where there were kids/families all around.>> Who cares? Epcot is an AWESOME place to drink. I really, in all honesty, don't care who's around when I do it. If I'm having fun and minding my own business, they shouldn't care either.
Originally Posted By Moltres I've been going to Epcot for years, with my kids, every year during the Food and Wine Fest no less. Only one time have I come across anyone who was being rude due to over consumption and even that example was not all that bad. Like you said vbdad, hardly any, if any hell raisers aren't going to go hang out and get smash faced around families. I don't think it's a big concern, atleast, I'm not worried, and I'm a T-Total'er myself. Sell the booze. Maybe the place will stay open for more than a year.
