Originally Posted By Dabob2 Funny thing about the word "seem." It indicates how you see thing refracted through your particular prism. Which may not bear much resemblance to reality - and IMO it does not.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I'm guessing most of us have no idea what it's like to be black man in this country. Being looked at by the police and the rest of society as potential law breakers. It's certainly isn't right to paint a broad brush but unfortunately it does happen However, we're not police officers either so we don't see the s*** they happen to see either. If I were a cop and were faced with what could be a dangerous situation, I would hope I could use my best judgement to make sure nobody was hurt. But like a soldier if you're not in it do have a right to criticize? In both cases it's easier to armchair quarterback.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Hey, genius. Reality check for you. Not everyone on this board or even this thread is white. African Americans do post on LP WE. And my BIL of 20 years is not only a cop, he's a cop trainer. Teaches at local community colleges and the police academy. He's pounded the pavement, been beaten up during bar brawls, been shot at during bank heists, the whole enchilada. He knows exactly what it's like to be a police officer. And he's stated more than once to me, even 20 years ago, that some cops deserve the "friendly fire" they get from their fellow officers. Which he clearly stated is rarely "accidental." Do the math. You think you know about this stuff. You don't. But there are individuals right here, right now, who do. Get over yourself.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 You're BIL has every right to criticize his fellow officers because he's been in it. I don't have the right to do that and neither do you
Originally Posted By ecdc >>I don't have the right to do that and neither do you<< This is pure gold. A conservative saying citizens don't have the right to criticize government and state officials. I am delighted to know DDMAN won't ever be saying anything bad about the DMV or Obama ever again.
Originally Posted By ecdc This is more mind-boggling than I can even fathom. Citizens should not criticize state officials who have the government-sanctioned right to *kill* their fellow citizens! Holy crap Mussolini would be proud!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 < But like a soldier if you're not in it do have a right to criticize?> If I see film of a cop shooting down a 12 year old (like you yourself admitted was wrong), or a cop shooting a guy in the back in SC and then finding out he lied about it to his superiors, or cops putting a unarmed totally out-of-shape middle aged man in an illegal chokehold while he wheezes "I can't breathe..." of course I have a right to criticize.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I didn't say anything about criticizing elected officials. When it comes to that. Game on. I said don't criticize those on the front line who with a few exceptions of overstepping their bounds are charged with upholding the law and do it by the book.
Originally Posted By Mr X Honest question here DD - do you feel this way about *all* cops around the world, or just the American ones? To offer an extreme example, if you were visiting Kenya and you saw a gang of police beating on some student protesters, would you dismiss it as something you just wouldn't understand? What I'm driving at is, if you really believe that cops are inherently good, I wonder how you justify the myriad examples of oppressive police forces throughout the world (never mind historically). If you think it's just an American phenomenon, then my next question would be why do you think American cops are different?
Originally Posted By Tikiduck Just once it would be nice to see a conservative poster produce some facts and figures worthy of serious debate. But what can you expect from people who have Trump leading the polls?
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 "We need to start killing these cops" <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.channel3000.com/news/MPD-officer-confronted-by-crowd-punched-police-say/35082128">http://www.channel3000.com/new...35082128</a> Right violence against police will not be an issue
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 X Ithe number of bad cops in a place like Kenya is higher than the U.S. or other countries. So no not all police departments are the same. I really don't know why I'm getting ostracized for generally supporting the police in this country.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "I said don't criticize those on the front line who with a few exceptions of overstepping their bounds are charged with upholding the law and do it by the book." And the protest that have happened have been specifically about particular cases in which cops killed people and either may have or definitely did overstep their bounds. And you're not being ostracized.
Originally Posted By ecdc Yeah, that's pretty much your entire problem. How you feel and what reality is are two separate things. You can feel like black lives matter activists don't care about a little girl getting murdered. You can feel like people here hate cops. And you can feel like you're ostracized. You can feel all those things all you like. You're just wrong.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I never saw anyone here say it was a shame these cops were killed. It was basically brushed off with an oh well occupational hazard type response
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Some things go without saying. It is a shame when ANYONE needlessly dies. We don't always verbalize it because we would get nothing else done.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 " It was basically brushed off with an oh well occupational hazard type response" I only pointed out it was an occupational hazard, which it is, because you try to blame it on BLM. It has been an occupational hazard from long before anyone had even heard of BLM. And one of the links that you used to "illustrate "your point couldn't have been less connected to it.
Originally Posted By ecdc I never saw you say it was a shame those girls stabbed their friend, so by your impeccable logic, I can only reasonably assume you don't care when someone is murdered or nearly murdered. Yep, makes perfect sense!
