Poll: Majority of Democrats prefer Obama...

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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    Wishful thinking on the part of Dick Morris.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    >>And the message of Obama's speech was anything but chilling.<<

    <Some have characterized it "throwing Grandma under the bus" in Obama's reference to his Grandmother in equating her to Rev. Wright.

    But Obama has made racist comments a bit more acceptable in that you don't need to disassociate from racists. You can separate the person from their views.>

    Having some family members myself with some pretty racist views, past or present, I know exactly where he was coming from. I had one grandma who was pretty racist pretty much till the day she died. She also would say things such as (about her next-door neighbors) "they're Jewish, but they're nice." I could say "Grandma, that's not a contradiction!" till I was blue in the face, and she just didn't get it. But it doesn't mean I didn't love her.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    <"As the controversy matures, he can increasingly depict those who fan its flames as trying to live in the past and re-fight the civil wars of race that have divided America." (Us vs Them - BINARY)>

    A more sophisticated analyst would notice that Obama was specifically rejecting binary thinking. But Morris hasn't been relevant for a while.
     
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    Originally Posted By woody

    >>A more sophisticated analyst would notice that Obama was specifically rejecting binary thinking.<<

    Only with the separation of racist comments to the person. Obama has blurred the issue of race to a degree. In turn, the agreement with this point of view has become binary.

    The debate has change. The goalposts have been moved.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    >>Obama has blurred the issue of race to a degree.<<

    I don't think so. He simply said what everyone who is honest knows is true. That people we know and love can say idiotic things.
     
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    Originally Posted By woody

    Interesting... Rev. Al Sharpton is not endorsing Obama although Obama wants an endorsement.

    Smart decision. It saves Sharpton a public denunciation if Sharpton's old comments becomes a problem later on in Obama's campaign.

    <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/Story?id=3105288&page=2" target="_blank">http://abcnews.go.com/Politics
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    The Rev. Al Sharpton is supporting Obama "but he's made the strategic decision to keep his support quiet," according to -- Al Sharpton? "I won't either endorse you or not endorse you," Sharpton said he told Obama, per the New York Daily News' Adam Serwer and Michael Saul. They write: "According to Sharpton, Obama protested and asked for his public support. 'No, no, no. I want you to endorse,' Sharpton recalled Obama saying. Sharpton told Obama that it would be better strategically for him to remain publicly neutral."
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    >>A more sophisticated analyst would notice that Obama was specifically rejecting binary thinking.<<

    <Only with the separation of racist comments to the person. Obama has blurred the issue of race to a degree.>

    Earlier in the campaign he had (and was sometimes called "post-racial.") But yesterday was just the opposite. He took on race head-on and gave specifics of both white and black resentments and grievances.

    <In turn, the agreement with this point of view has become binary.>

    That doesn't make sense.
     

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