Originally Posted By vbdad55 <So...if it takes 20 years to build an e-ticket back there, you'll complain then that we were better off with the lagoon?< Charlie McCarthy I am not, so I don't need to be spoken for...I am saying we would have been better off with 20K still there, or an updated version like DL got...yes! And for what we have to show for 11+ years, I would rather have had them leave the grass/ trees and flowers and some benches... And 20 years is a heck of a long time...for anything. I am now 50 years old, I don't want to have to lose an e-ticket when I'm in my 30's and not get a replacement until I retire. I think that is unacceptable, yes, how demanding of me, to expect to have Fantasyland full of attractions. Mind you not an addition, just not large losses like that.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney ^^^Yes, you are very unreasonable. You'll likely be 60-65 before anything of substance opens on that land.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <^^^Yes, you are very unreasonable. You'll likely be 60-65 before anything of substance opens on that land. < That is my thought also......
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost As some of you may recall, when the destruction of the 20K lagoon happened along with the announcement that the playground was being built, I was kind of excited because I never thought of the Pooh Playground as anything but a filler to be used until such time as a new, huge, wonderful attraction would replace 20K. I thought that because I wasn't able to figure out why they would have gone to all that expense at this time, if they didn't have something big planned. How foolish I was! I reported in my WDW based DLR trip report my feeling about it after seeing what was happening at Disneyland. So I don't have to retype the whole thing I will copy it below for those that might not have seen it before. Sadly, I really feel this way about it now. Here it is! Another thought that came to me immediately upon viewing the refurbishment of the submarine basin for the new “Finding Nemo†ride would be why WDW was motivated to get rid of the 20K lagoon and show building when it did. I can hear the executives sitting in the board room saying, “Man if we don’t get rid of that place right now the WDW people will never stop screaming for us to do the same thing in Floridaâ€. Finally, it explains why after all those years now was picked to illuminate it and put in a playground. Out of sight…Out of mind! As an east coaster I now feel shortchanged. Of course, this is just MHO.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Goofy -- I do remember the discussions and I was cast as a doomsayer, a curmudgeon, and worse by some-- as I said after 11 years they are not doing this as a placeholder, this is all you are going to get. It's business and I recongize the strategy, regardless of what business you are in. Turns out I was right about the quality of what we got and I am confident I am also right about the fact that this will be it for a long long time, if not forever there. There are no plans for more attractions on that land. The money that renovated AE could have built a dark ride if they had wanted to, or close to it. Fnuny how DL was able to save their 'leaking ships with low capacity yada yada yada somehow.. It alll started with lies put out about how it was don temporarily for rehab...and for some there maybe initially that was the plan. But when they kept telling this fib 3 years later I smelled a rat ( not a Mouse). This attraction was killed off for one reason, because they could and it saved money. Someone counted up the number of attractions at MK and decided that was enough....the playground is just there like a 'wind break' to take away from the open 'field'. And since there was no money allotted, look what we got. I wish I would have been wrong, but it just added up to well, and I have seen in it business for a long time...the deception, then the false hopes, ( all the while the beancounters officially burying any hope for redemption) --then make people hate what is left behing so badly ( the lagoon rotting away) that ANYTHING will look better. Then something that would have been an abomination 11 years ago, looks like an improvement. I wish I would have been wrong, but I called this one very early
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost The truth be known, I kind of enjoyed the empty lagoon. Don't get me wrong, I would have enjoyed the subs more but I used to just stare into the lagoon, I could see part of the "show" and the sub tracks underwater and my imagination would carry me back. So if we could get nothing else I, personally, would have preferred the empty lagoon to the playground.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Goofy, so you are sayin' the empty lagoon was more 'magical' than the Pooh Playground because you could at least use your imagination there and visualize either what was, or what could be ? You know what, hard to build a strong case against that........welcome to curmudgeon land
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Thanks but for the most part of my life Curmudgeon Street was my permanent address. Nothing new for me really. I usually start out cautiously optimistic and within a short time I am back home in curmudgeon.
Originally Posted By mickey_ring Is there a people counter at the entrance/exit to the playground? I'm curious to see how popular it is, then compare the playground attendance figures to other attractions. It would be a shocker if PooLand was a bigger draw than the rides around it.
Originally Posted By mickey_ring I remember sending an email to the Disney company asking about adding some attractions for the age 5 and under crowd. This was back around '99 or 2000. My kids were 'fraid that attractions were too scary, too dark, too noisy, too whatever. It's strange now that they are big enough to enjoy all the rides, a playground opens in the MK.
