Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney "I meant that it was my understanding that on average, ocuppancy rates at WDW resorts are about 70%. Of course there are time when it will be sold out." You understand correctly. In the 70s and 80s, occupancy was often between 95-99% (never 100% because there were always rooms out of service for rehabs). Now, WDW never gets much closer to sell-outs than low-90s. They have too many rooms, rooms are also often held back, and many are rehabbed. "If its always full, then why discount?" Why indeed.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Simple. People are cheap and won't pay 2006 prices for the bragging rights of staying on property. But to me, with som many on-property hotels now available, even sleeping on Mickey's property isn't that special anymore.
Originally Posted By fkurucz ^^^More like WDW management overestimated the size of the market that is willing and or able to pay full price for a WDW room.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe I don't know about that as 3 of the last 4 times at WDW, we couldn't get a room at PC--------Oct, Nov, Dec Jan---100% at PC! I can't figure out why they don't consummate the other buildings as the attendance in 2005 broke the records!!!!!
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>I don't know about that as 3 of the last 4 times at WDW, we couldn't get a room at PC--------Oct, Nov, Dec Jan---100% at PC! I can't figure out why they don't consummate the other buildings as the attendance in 2005 broke the records!!!!!<< There are rumors that the remaining PC buildings are going to have suites. During my one visit to the PC (Jan 04) it was pretty full. I suppose that the value resorts are an easier sell these days (compared to the moderate and luxury resorts)
Originally Posted By CMDad CBR is quite often at 100% (2112 rooms). Last time I know of was the marathon week/weekend.
Originally Posted By CMDad CBR is quite often at 100% (2112 rooms). Last time I know of was the marathon week/weekend.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney It's very easy to say one resort is sold out. This happens frequently at the value and moderate resorts, especially Pop Century (because of its newness) and CBR. But even if 5-6 WDW resorts are sold out that doesn't mean there aren't hundreds or thousands of empty rooms on property. It also doesn't take into account when a resort takes inventory out of use for rehabs, remodeling, cleaning or just to lower the total number of rooms available. This happens all the time. And if Pop Century ever sees Phase II completed you can bet it will be family suites because it's one area that WDW lodging completely lacks, even with over 30,000 rooms on property. And don't think other folks don't realize it ... just take a drive by the Nickolodeon themed resort that's not even half a mile off property. I also wouldn't be surprised to see rooms at the other values (and perhaps mods) get combined for family suites. They have a few being tested at the All Star Music right now (pics are on wdwig.com).
Originally Posted By CMDad <<But even if 5-6 WDW resorts are sold out that doesn't mean there aren't hundreds or thousands of empty rooms on property.>> Absolutely true! But there are times when all resorts are at 100% The previously mentioned Marathon week/weekend was just such a time.
Originally Posted By belle42 Perhaps they will make them into DVC Suites since that's all they seem to be advertising while you are on property nowadays...
Originally Posted By vbdad55 If there's a market for them , they will sell them....the wrong part of that is what ?
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney "If there's a market for them , they will sell them....the wrong part of that is what ? " Nothing. Except there comes a time when you have to ask is WDW supposed to be simply a time-share resort. And I can tell you that despite any Disney spin that Saratoga Springs is not selling nearly as well as they had hoped. They dumped hundreds of rooms on Travelocity recently over the Christmas holiday for $38 a night. Does that sound like 'we're selling like gangbusters' to you?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Nothing. Except there comes a time when you have to ask is WDW supposed to be simply a time-share resort. < they hit the cash cow with DVC -- and for a stretch post 9/11 when attendance was poor, that was a nice cash flow that kept selling.... Now SS I agree, I just don't know what they were thinking -- I have no problem withmore DVC units...but please keep the quality at an OKW - Boardwalk level -- especially since people are paying twice per point what I did
Originally Posted By Ash Is Crazy 4 WDW I think the family suites would be a good thing too, esp. at a value price. When my family went, my family and my aunt, uncle and cousin, we stayed at Dixie Landings *aka Port Orleans Riverside* anywayz, we had two adjoining rooms, and thats not cheap. I think the value suites will be awesome so my family doesn't have to worry about cost.
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