Originally Posted By tonyanton Does anyone think the AA bears for Grizzly at HKDL will be duplicated for placement in DCA along the rapids ride?
Originally Posted By barboy Grizzly River Run if Disney really wanted to make this a bonafide classic. I used to really want to see a few AA bears on Grizzly River Run but not anymore. GRR tries to mirror a real life white water raft ride in California's high Sierra---so let's play off of that. I want to see life like human AA's along the journey. Maybe our first sighting could be a party of 4 that 'took out' of the river and set up camp with a campfire complete with tents, coolers and all of the typical gear. They're having a great time and one or two wave to us in friendly fashion. Next encounter we meet a frustrated twosome off to the side repairing their ripped boat and manually pumping it up to create some mild comedy. Let's face it if anyone has been on white water rivers before problems can happen. ((If you don't like the twosome repairing how about two looking over a river map and planning their route of attack.)) And down stream when the rapids become more pronounced see a wrecked/deflated raft caught in an eddy as an ominous warning of how dangerous the river can be. We could see a floating helmet and oars broken too as if the boater(s) is missing. For the climax just before the big spinning drop an elaborate and fully animated park ranger stands to the side on a boulder desperately trying to warn us with shouts and arm signals to pull out since there is danger ahead. Ya, like we would ever see that!
Originally Posted By barboy Here is what frustrates: for very little money, say under 10 million, we could have fully realized AA bears or AA boaters/rangers enhance that ride dramatically---so much bang for the buck!!! Just think if they would have channelled the money that built Mulholland carnival ride or Orange Stinger and put that toward quality AA's how much better Grizzly would have been.
Originally Posted By oc_dean May I add my comments? MYSTIC POINT - Happy to see they will be getting a "Haunted Mansion" type ride. Nice to see they are going for a new and different approach. I'm not sad they are not going with the omnimover system .. but something different. That will certainly make it unique to them .. and not be just "Another" run-of-the-mill Haunted Mansion from any of the other Disney 'magic kingdom' parks. I'm not so keen they are having just ONE ride to anchor this new land. I hope there's enough land to build at least one other ride in the future - PotC anyone??? GRIZZLY TRAIL- Nice to see a different "take" on what is obviously going to be there Frontierland. And the train ride seems to be their version of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. (Not Expedition Everest The design of the trains were actually more reminiscent of this - for those who've been to Magic Mountain in CA - <a href="http://www.members.tripod.com/heylownine/images/metro.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.members.tripod.com/...etro.jpg</a> <a href="http://www.coastergallery.com/2005/GoldRusher03.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.coastergallery.com/...er03.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By oc_dean TOY STORY LAND - I can almost sum it with this: <a href="http://www.getreligion.org/wp-content/photos/Left_thumbs_down.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.getreligion.org/wp-...down.jpg</a> What are the rides? A catapult launch much like the Superman Escape (also from) Magic Mountain. And Parachute Jump! Can't seem to figure out what Slinky the dog is .. but it must be something pretty simple like a tea cups/spinner type attraction. This land is not much of a winner in my books. It's more like a light and cheap version of ToonTown .. except with the Pixar crew. I certainly hope they go for more a "organic" feel to all the fabrication to all the land's theming elements ... or else this land is going to give HK Disneyland a rather tacky appeal.
Originally Posted By barboy Careful oc dean, concerning Toy Story Land badmouthing is not allowed on LP unless the park/land/attraction/restaurant is finished and you've seen it first hand; you know the rules. But seriously Toy Story Land looks abominable and if I were king for a day I would not build it and redirect the money to Mystic Point and Grizzly Trail which have me salivating like a Pavlovian dog.
Originally Posted By barboy ///I hope there's enough land to build at least one other ride in the future - PotC anyone???/// Yes, a Pirates *type* ride(slow moving, E, water based/boat, adult themed, AA laden) would really balance out the ride selection nicely. But Pirates of the Caribbean itself would not fit in Mystic Point. Better to consider something more like Disney Sea's Sindbad with 1/3 scale but fluid AA's to tell the story.
Originally Posted By Anatole69 Is there enough land for that kind of expansion? Seems like HK Disneyland is seriously space challenged. - Anatole
Originally Posted By jmuboy A "Carribean Beach" themed entrance to POTC (like at DLP) would work to help this ride fit into the existing Adventureland. HKDL does not need anymore mini lands like the three they are getting (although Grizzly Peak and Mystic Point seem to be very well done mini lands)
Originally Posted By Malin *** Everest has but one Yeti and riders get one full sight encounter. On Grizzly trail we will meet up with a few bears all with different personalities and predispositions. *** I only hope the coaster won't go zooming pass the AA's to quickly like it does during the Yeti scene at Expedition Everest, although this is a saving grace for the park, as the AA is permantly broken and a huge waste of money. Hope none of the team who made that mistake are also on the team for the new Grizzly coaster. The concept art for the Bears look fantastic and its good to see some humour has been thrown in.
Originally Posted By Malin *** Does anyone think the AA bears for Grizzly at HKDL will be duplicated for placement in DCA along the rapids ride? *** I certainly hope so, the theming for this attraction is beautiful and I stand to this being some of Disney's best work. But the actual ride is missing something, I think the Bears would make a good fit.
Originally Posted By leemac <<5 RIDE VEHICLE/TRAIN... Look at that grizzly train--- it's a 'spittin' image of Big Thunder Mnt's.>> Those vehicles are the Everest vehicles - exactly the same. The coaster manufacturer is the same. Grizzly will have the playfulness of Big Thunder Mountain but it will be a far intenser coaster experience - the two LIMs will be pretty fast.
Originally Posted By barboy ///Those vehicles(Grizzly Trail's) are the Everest vehicles - exactly the same./// .....when you say 'exactly the same' are you talking about even the paint/tone/color schemes and rear 'steam engine' feature. Would the two trains(everest and Grizzly)be so similar as to be interchangeable; would a Grizzly train fit perfectly-- both in aesthetics and function-- on the Everest track and vice versa?
Originally Posted By leemac <<.....when you say 'exactly the same' are you talking about even the paint/tone/color schemes and rear 'steam engine' feature.>> No - I mean the chassis are identical. You described them as the spitting image of BTM trains which is not the case. <<Would the two trains(everest and Grizzly)be so similar as to be interchangeable; would a Grizzly train fit perfectly-- both in aesthetics and function-- on the Everest track and vice versa?>> Yup - exactly the same gauge.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< the Yeti scene at Expedition Everest,... the AA is permantly broken and a huge waste of money. Hope none of the team who made that mistake are also on the team for the new Grizzly coaster. >>> What are you talking about? EE was a huge success: it was on time and within budget. Pay no mind to the broken signature piece of the attraction, the bird on a stick, the broken steam effect, or the unfinished backside of the show building that greets every park guest as they come into the parking lot.
Originally Posted By jmuboy Yes, the EE effects are a mess. But WDI won't be allowed to shut the ride down to work on this stuff properly because DAK needs the ride open for capacity and publicity. DAK needs one more mega e ticket so the park does not rely solely on the Safaris and EE to be operating in order for guests to feel like they really experieced DAK.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^Sadly, it's not only EE that has major effects issues. So too does CTX. Very embarrassing ... and awful show.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris Even when I went on CTX(refuse to call it D)in 2001, some of the dinos were just standing there still while the sound effects came out. Lame.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Even when I went on CTX(refuse to call it D)in 2001, some of the dinos were just standing there still while the sound effects came out. >>> That's even lamer than just having some of them not working. In many attractions, when a particular AA breaks, if it's a minor part of the show that doesn't ruin the story if its missing, they take it off stage and turn off its individual part of the soundtrack. That's the attention to detail I'd expect from Disney.
