Originally Posted By FerretAfros Just out of curiosity, what are they adding this money to? Both the shops and the Sun Wheel will pretty much be identical to what was there on opening day. With the economy doing poorly, and the money already spent (as far as the budgets are concerned), you'd think they would be doing more, rather than less, as building materials and construction costs are at a low for pretty much the last decade. I think the only way that they will be able to make up for completely botching the pier refurb (since it now looks like only about a third of the pier will be redone) would be to add another attraction to the list already annouced. With the costs as low as they are, I really wouldn't be entirely surprised if they could build an entirely new attraction for what they had budgeted on the ferris wheel queue and shop make over. That said, I think that my biggest complaint about Sun Wheel when it opened had nothing to do with how it looked from across the bay, but rather the dismal queue. It's dull, boring, uninspired, and makes waiting down there seem to take forever.
Originally Posted By pitapan16 The wheel has been rotated, and they are starting to work on the second section (out of the three planned). Across the way, work continues on the Boardwalk Games makeover. Unfortunately, it looks like the makeover to the shops in the area will not happen anytime in the near future, as Disney has decided to reallocate the funding to other projects." -Oh crap. I hope this is not true. How lame will Paradise Pier continue to be? I wish the focus was on re-doing these poorly themed areas that are already a mess in DCA and rectify them properly, aka, Midway Mania quality.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Aren't the shops along the pier being revamped as I typed this? I could have sworn I saw pictures somewhere online that showed constructions continuing with the themed of the new pier exteriors from TSMM on down to Maliboomer.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Those are the Games of the Boardwalk. The shops (Sideshow Tees, Point Mugu Tatoos, ets) are all still open and still ugly.
Originally Posted By Pjisme123 HI All, I think the part that we all seem to be missing and I havent heard mentioned once in all my readings of this topic is with the economy in the state its in, what difference is all of these changes going to make on a park that has NO business. The last time I was at DCA, there was no one there, now i dont know if thats because of the construction or that DCA just couldnt attract the people it needed, but its sad that it was so slow. Im happy to hear about all of the changes that are happening and hope that they can improve the low business there.
Originally Posted By bean I am not sure where people are getting this information about the shops. last i checked they were still scheduled to get redone in April
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "...with the economy in the state its in, what difference is all of these changes going to make on a park that has NO business." That's the idea. The economy sucks now. The park sucks now. If they use both of those factors to their advantage, they can get cheaper (relatively speaking) additions and improvements while few people are visiting the park. Then, once the economy gets better, there will be a new(ish) park with quality attractions and themed areas. The timing really did seem to work out fairly well, all things considered. "last i checked they were still scheduled to get redone in April" I'm glad to hear that they are still going on the original plan, and that we're just hearing some rumor that doesn't seem to be true.
Originally Posted By Sweeper FerretAfros said, "I think the only way that they will be able to make up for completely botching the pier refurb (since it now looks like only about a third of the pier will be redone) would be to add another attraction to the list already annouced." While I doubt the redo is off, if I had a voice at WDI I would vote to save money on the shops and Fun Wheel queue if it meant a real attraction could replace MM. Disney has to understand the power of a quality attraction to pull guests in. Heck, EE got me to Florida after 15 years! I'm sure WDI isn't wasting an opportunity with this redo. They know they got very lucky with securing funds before the economy went sour.
Originally Posted By SGE_lvr hey i posted that pix from my cell yesterday evening! i was there in dca for a short time and saw the mickey silouette. i went over there thinking it got damaged somehow, i was thinking from the rain yesterday or thursday. caliscreamin, tsmm, and mullholand madness were all closed and so it made PP just look like a mess, poor PP! can anyone tell me why grizzly RR is closed.. is it caused of PL drained or is that geeting refurb
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "I am not sure where people are getting this information about the shops. last i checked they were still scheduled to get redone in April." Most likely people are just getting hysterical for nothing. Not unsual around here.
Originally Posted By Moon Waffle I agree that the worst part of PP right now is the queue for Screamin. Talk about ugly and uninspiring. It's about the only area of the DLR where I feel like I AM in the "outside world". There is zip, zero, nothing Disney about it. I love the changes they are making to PP, but the Screamin' queue must be addressed. Fortunately the Blue Sky Cellar seems to hint that they are thinking the same way and eventually it will be improved.
Originally Posted By mstaft Hints at change, but I'll believe it when I see it. Hopeful, but slightly pessimistic... Mark www.InsightsandSounds.blogspot.com
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Hints? The whole area is being torn apart and the lagoon has been drained. What more do you want?
Originally Posted By mstaft I know work is being done but that doesn't mean it will be done to the concept art that is presented. Should have said that more clearly. So, the proof is in the end result. It IS Blue Sky Cellar, after all.
Originally Posted By jmuboy The models and renderings you see in Blue Sky Cellar have changed a great deal since the art work and models were created. Gone is the boardwalk around the Fun Wheel, covered queue for the Fun Wheel, new pavilion for the Carousel. In question right now is the fate of the Screamin' queue and station renovation and the gift shop facades (some rumors indicate their facelift isn’t happening in phase 1). So like MStaff said, the proof is in the pudding…..the end results.
Originally Posted By ni_teach FerretAfros said:"The shops (Sideshow Tees, Point Mugu Tatoos, ets) are all still open and still ugly." They are not doing everything all at once. If they stick to the plan those will be changed over the next year. One step at a time.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt ^^Thank you. Most of the changes being discussed here are cosmetic anyway. It's not like their ripping out the shops and installing some hot new ride. I, like everyone, would like DCA to improve, but most of the stuff being put on the back burner isn't that significant. If they said World of Color was being canceled, for example, I'd be worried.
Originally Posted By disneysnout Good to know they still plan to go ahead and fix the shops. DCA needs more attractions, thats the bottom line. Will WOC save the park? No. Will new rides do it ? Yes. I still hope for a Muppet Dark Ride.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Will WOC save the park? No. Will new rides do it ? Yes." Does DCA need saving? WOC strikes me as something that could potentially bring in more guests than most of the other new things in the pipeline with the exception of the big Cars ride and Little Mermaid attraction. If nothing else it will be a huge incentive for visitors to stay in the park after dark, something that DCA desperately needs.
