Originally Posted By WorldDisney Well Bean, if the admission ticket prices is not as important as what people pay for when they actually enter the park, then help me out, why do they keep raising the prices so damn much??? The ticket price is now nearly $70 which is insane, especially considering it was litterally just $40 a mere 9 years ago. The prices have gone waay pass the rate of inflation. If we are using your logic, wouldnt it be better if Disney kept the admission price at say, a reason $45-50 and get more people in the parks more for simply a single day. And wouldnt these single day people spend more than the APers who probably keep to a budget, buy a single souvineer and more than likely hop to the Denny's after the park closes? If admission tickets are not that big of a deal, why do they keep raising them keeping them, pricing many people out?
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Nice to see you WD. Who is actually paying the full $69 or whatever it is to get into to DL or DCA? I think someone else mentioned here that around %20 of visitors are paying for a single day single park ticket, so that means that a whopping %80 of DLR visitors are enterting the parks on some kind of discounted admission. I don't think bean is saying that the ticket fees aren't important, only that they are one part of a more complicated formula for generating revenue at the resort. As I stated earlier, WOC will likely be a huge draw and the domino effect will be longer stays, which will result in increased guest spending.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I would honestly be shocked if only 20% of visitors had normal price single day tickets. That statistic might not include a single day park hopper, which I would expect to be a little more popular than a single park ticket, but it still seems awfully low. I know there are a ton of APers in the parks, along with some vacationers who have multiple day tickets, but (especially on the weekends) it seems like most people at DLR are only there for the day.
Originally Posted By dshyates "why do they keep raising the prices so damn much??? " Disney likes to perpetuate the notion tha Disney is cost prohibitive. You know people want something they can't have. AND Disney feels that if you can't afford a a week long vacation, they don't want you taking up space at their parks.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Now I'm starting to feel like a biggest chump out there for paying retail. I live in northern california too, and usually get to the parks once or ocassionally twice a year - not enough to justify an AP. When I go I usually just get a one-day hopper from the ticket booths right outside the gate. So no sweetheart deals for me - just cash on the barrelhead. If I suspect that four out of five of the people surrounding me in the parks are there on some cheapskate admission while I paid the full rate, that's not going to sit well. I wonder if they could have some kind of special 'golden FP' attached to the 'one-day' passes sold on the esplanade. Since these folks only account for 20% of the daily guests, and we pay more for admission than everybody else, you'd think they could step up the value a little bit. Wouldn't cost them a dime to do it either.
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> Disney feels that if you can't afford a a week long vacation, they don't want you taking up space at their parks. << Except if you live in a 200 mile radius, and have $99 to spare. In that case, you can come and take up space in their parks hundreds of days a year.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "If I suspect that four out of five of the people surrounding me in the parks are there on some cheapskate admission while I paid the full rate, that's not going to sit well." If you buy a one day park-hopper you are getting a deal. The alternative would be to purchase two single day tickets and visit both parks on the same day using one ticket for each admission.
Originally Posted By bean "81 WorldDisney Sun 2/1/2009 7:14a Well Bean, if the admission ticket prices is not as important as what people pay for when they actually enter the park, then help me out, why do they keep raising the prices so damn much??? The ticket price is now nearly $70 which is insane, especially considering it was litterally just $40 a mere 9 years ago. The prices have gone waay pass the rate of inflation." Obviously because it generates revenue for the resort and company. The main point i am trying to point out is that some people put way to much emphasis on whether or not DCA is getting full paid tickets, 2fer tickets or anykind of discounted ticket. Disney's emphasis is on whether or not they could keep people on property longer so that they can generate revenue with other things above and beyond ticket sales. At the same time Disney knows very well the importance of Brand image. Constant discounts with no hike in price could send the wrong image. It could symbolize the decline of a brand. The hike in price also lures people to consider the multiday passes or annual passes which normally give the guest a better deal. Those multi day tickets automatically extend guests stay.
Originally Posted By bean "82 Hans Reinhardt Sun 2/1/2009 11:24a I don't think bean is saying that the ticket fees aren't important, only that they are one part of a more complicated formula for generating revenue at the resort. As I stated earlier, WOC will likely be a huge draw and the domino effect will be longer stays, which will result in increased guest spending." Thank you, thats exactly what i was saying
Originally Posted By bean "85 gadzuux Sun 2/1/2009 12:21p So no sweetheart deals for me - just cash on the barrelhead. If I suspect that four out of five of the people surrounding me in the parks are there on some cheapskate admission while I paid the full rate, that's not going to sit well." I think we all feel that way but if you notice is not just theme parks that do this. Airline tickets are sold at several price levels. The person next to you could have actually paid 1/2 of what you did for their seat. when it comes to airline tickets its about timing. Did you know that many airline companies purposely sell tickets thru their ticketing service higher than thru a travel agent? Airlines prefer that people do not might directly from them. less sells directly thru them means less personell. They purposely sell blocks of tickets to agencies at a very deep disount to allow the travel agencies to dictate the pice of the ticket. The travel agencies then compete with eachother by lowering their commisions to beat out other agencies. Sports events, concerts and many other entertainments also have variable price diferences in tickets and many times you could be sitting next to someone that paid much less depending on demand. They key is to do some research before commiting to spend mone on anykind of travel or entertainment. There are many places that offer discounts for Disney theme parks. Some of the best deals come from credit unions. During the heav Christmas season my nephew purchased tickets for relatives that were visiting. Each ticket was $35.00 and they were parkhoppers. So they paid 1/2 of one park ticket for a parkhopper on a Holiday season. Interesting thing is they fell into the trap and their plan of taking sandwiches and eating at the picknic area was thrown out the window and instead they ate their as a group and came back with lots of souvenirs because of the extra money they felt they had saved on tickets.
Originally Posted By ni_teach I am not sure what high ticket prices have to do with Micky's ears being taken down.... However the right ear is now down with just the electrical in place.
Originally Posted By dshyates Why is it taking so long to take the ears down. I am always stunned at the way Disney constructs/deconstructs things. Like when I saw the first pics of work on the new WOC viewing area. It showed that they had removed two light fixtures from posts. it couldn't have taken more than 30 mins to do the work, and they didn't go any farther. Its like they are ADHD.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros With the ears, I can see why it's taking a while to get them off. They have a limited time to actually do the work, when the conditions aren't ideal (at night...dark and cold). They also have limited equipment, since it's all hidden during the day. There's the boom lift that can be seen from Screamin' next to the loop (trapped in the 'courtyard' of TSMM), but pretty much everything else needs to be done by hand. That means a bunch of people climbing up and down the coaster's structure with pieces of the ears until it's done. But I do agree that some things seem to take a rediculously long time. When did they finish draining the lagoon? Like the second week in December. And they didn't start construction in it until about the second week in January. Why not leave it full for an extra month? The boardwalk games went down a long time ago, and got some general demolition work done early on. They then sat there for what seemed like several months, and they're now getting a little more stuff done, but they are using a pair of small moveable scaffholdings, when they should be using one big one that covers the whole thing. The amphitheater is just sitting there, and real work has yet to begin (at least to my knowledge). I understand that there's a bit of excitement that surrounds construction walls, but these things are going to be up for a long time anyway, so why not just wait until the last possible moment to close them off? I still can't believe how long the games have sat there without any progress being done, when they are something that makes money pretty easily. It just blows my mind that Disney wants to spend the money to make them prettier, but doesn't think that it's worth staffing them to keep them open a little longer before they get 'reimagined'.
Originally Posted By disneysnout I agree Ferrt..they seem to take a really long time to get things done. We all know they could speed it up if they really wanted to.. As far as the ticket, i havent paid a full price ticket To Disneyalnd in Years~Like bean said if you do research you can get some great deals. Who go's on vacation with out doing research.
Originally Posted By dshyates See, I do my research, and it leads away from the Disney product. Here are some Orlando examples. When I compare $340/night at the Poly to $199 at the Ritz Carlton. Or $240 for a 7 day parkhopper compared to Universals $99 7-day 2 park pass with a free day at a waterpark. When your offerings don't
Originally Posted By lesmisfan "hey should have done that with Eureka instead of just cancelling the parade and literaly destroying it. When they realized people wanted characters they should have integrated them into the floats." Bean i have been saying this since the day it closed! that was such a great parade all you had to do was add some characters to it and it would be been wonderful.
Originally Posted By pitapan16 So no sweetheart deals for me - just cash on the barrelhead. If I suspect that four out of five of the people surrounding me in the parks are there on some cheapskate admission while I paid the full rate, that's not going to sit well." -Lol, I understand where your coming from, but thats the free market for you. A nice example of me getting the better half of a car rental is last week when I rented a car for one day, if I rented the night before(still withing 24hrs/aka one day rental) the cost was inflated to a whopping $120 which is generally extremely high for a ECONOMY car, I continued to shop and manipulate my pick up time and found that a very minimal change to pick up time and using a promo code I found off google brought the out the door price to less than $18 for the day.
Originally Posted By jmuboy "hey should have done that with Eureka instead of just cancelling the parade and literaly destroying it. When they realized people wanted characters they should have integrated them into the floats." AMEN Bean - Eureka was a great parade and no one at Disney gave it a chance. I still miss it....and very glad I got to see it. Would love Eureka 2.0 to come to DCA after its 2012 "rebirth"
