Originally Posted By ssWEDguy How do cab drivers get paid? Are they partly hourly, partly commission? Does part of their hourly pay come out of "anticipated tips?"
Originally Posted By mrichmondj I found it interesting to learn during my recent visit to WDW that the Dining Plan tip rate is 18% as well, even for small groups using the plan. I don't know if the "automatic" tip had anything to do with the very slow service that I experienced at every table service restaurant, but it makes you wonder.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe At the Ridge it's 15% gratuity and 3% beverage gratuity. The bill last night was $100 or so (no drinks) and with the built in tip it came to $120 so I gave the waitress another $15, the maitre de 5$ and the beertender a saw as I myself average 8/10 diet cokes plus the kids and wife. I agree with Mrich that usually it work make you think that the waiting staff would lose their motivation to give good service if they have the tip built in, but some people are so cheap I can't blame them. At the Ridge, if there's not good service, the waiter or waitress would be immediately fired.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Tell you what is required though...paying income taxes on tips even if you didn't get any. The Government requires rest. to tally the total sales generated by each waitperson and then figures that there is a 15% tip so it is reported as income even if the waitperson didn't get a penny. What a wonderful system for grabbing the little guy. < okay, I have never been on a wait staff..but are you saying that a wait staff person has to pay income tax on income that cannot be proven ? Somehow this just sounds wrong ... Income for the restaurant or income for the waiter or both? How can one pay income tax on non income ?
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost The assumption is made that the going rate for tipping is 15% (might even be higher now). The Government being the fun loving people that they are do not want to miss out on that potential tax base so they require restaurants to keep track of sales and the waitstaff is taxed on the assumption that they received the 15% of that figure. Otherwise there would be no way of proving the income. So if you get bad service, I mean really bad service, you can at least enjoy the thought that the waitperson has to pay tax on the 15% you didn't leave.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy You know why, don't you? It's because many people may leave cash tips in an attempt to "make sure the tip goes to their particular wait person." And unless that wait person is reporting each and every one of those kinds of tips when they go backstage, then that cash doesn't show up as taxable income. So the government simply assumes it. Ducky.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I understand the reason why -- but seriously I didn't think they could tax you on money they can't prove you earned... learn something every day
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m ^^Yeah, when I was a hostess at Chi Chi's I was told you have to claim a certain percentage of the tables you serve as income. I think you have to pay the tax yourself. But I didn't think it was 15%, I thought it was 10%. But that was several years ago, so who knows.
Originally Posted By Chelledun Ours was 10%. It depends on the restaurant I think, or maybe the state.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost I'll go with the majority here. I was thinking 15% but it is more than possible that it is 10%.
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m <<I'll go with the majority here. I was thinking 15% but it is more than possible that it is 10%.>> You could be right Goofy. It may vary like Chelledun said.
Originally Posted By JHelba I don't agree with tipping (I tip 20%). Why should I pay a portion of someones salary for a business. I'm glad to pay extra to supplement a person's salary but to be expected to jointly pay their salary is wrong. A gripe I am tired of hearing from wait staff is that they aren't paid alot....well, guess what you're paid at least minimum wage (the law is that if you don't make enough in tips the restaraunt must make up for the rest up to minimum wage), so forcing me to tip only means I am saving the restaraunt $$$, I am not necesarily giving anything extra to the staff. For example If you're paid $2.00 an hour and get one table that leaves you $3.50 then the restaurant saved $3.50 but you've actually earned nothing. Another thing is this: If you want to be paid more than minimum wage then get a better job, you wait tables....I did it too, I also did other jobs and got paid the same as a waiter, so why whould I have to pay for him to make more than minimum wage when I ONLY make minimum wage, where is MY tip? You shouldn't expect people to raise your standard of living and wages so you can make more than minimum wage when you have a minimum wage job. SOrry. Alot of people deserve tips that don't get them. What about other service jobs, like anyone who deals directly with customers, or an employee who goes the extra mile for you? And yes minimum is too low, but I shouldn't have to supplement your lifestyle
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy Lol! <What about other service jobs, like anyone who deals directly with customers, or an employee who goes the extra mile for you?> That *is* a nice idea.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 what a stunner...all I can say to anyone who feels that way - ( nothing personal against the poster ) btw welcome to the board - is that whatever job someone is in today....you may one day find yourself waiting tables again....never forget where you came from....because it's a short trip back. To tell someone what they do is only worth minimum wage -- regardless of what they do is just wrong...most people take pride in the jobs they do...many people with wait staff jobs have multiple jobs or are going to school full time or part time to try and make a living. I never waited tables...but I guess I had what some would consider lower level jobs when I was young.. I grew up poor, in a poor section of a large city. Through hard work and education my life today is more than I could have ever hoped for, I am truly fortunate..... BUT, I never, ever forgot where I came from......and hopefully never will. I treat all people with respect, and appreciate the wait staff, grocery bagger, store clerks the same as the CFO's and CEO's I deal with. A person's job does not define a person.. As far as other tips, I always tip valets , hotel workers, the kids who dry my car at the car wash, bartender, and anyone else I would deem appropriate when they do a good job and are courteous. I am glad I am able to do it. As far as employees that work for me who do a good job over and above, there is recognition, large and small, from cash awards to tickets to sports events or concerts etc. that most companies use.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy <---would quit and move to work for vbdad55 in a heartbeat (though it'd be nice to know what I'd be doin' exactly first, LOL)
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Became a first line manager over 23 years ago and moved up the ladder from there for a major international computer / computer services company. If you worked for me today you would either be in a financial position or organizational development. You could be in Brazil, Canada or anywhere in the US......you could be a line manager or an analyst or a consultant. Whatever it was, if you were a dedicated worker, I can guarantee you'd be appreciated. That's the easiest part of my position..I believe if a manager can't be that way, they are in the wrong job. All the best managers I had before I was promoted and ever since were that way....
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy That's so commendable and very touching, vbdad. Now I really do wanna work for you, lol. If I'm in somethin' I remotely enjoy, I believe in givin' it my all. At my part-time job selling men's shoes I go out of my way for the customers, and my manager recently told me I have the highest numbers. Now if only I enjoyed my *full*-time job half so much, lol.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Well I 'll give you an example. as a member of the local school board - the dedication required, 10 - 15 + extra hours per week some weeks to try and make the education system better for 30,000 kids. Dealing with contacts / unions / apathetic voters / social issues etc.....and the $$ reward for that.... it's volunteer....
