Originally Posted By vbdad55 TDG -- I am glad you put that effort in....and as I am sure you are well aware, many of the public don't appreciate it, but doesn't it make you feel better also ? I know it must or else you wouldn't be that way....and every once in a blue moon, some customer probably thanks you for your efforts... it's amazing that any role we deal with daily can somehow be looked at as 'less of a job' or a 'minimum wage job' - yet God help us if a cast member isn't smiling at Disney when we are there, we crucify them.....and the last I looked the cast majority of those people are not makin' the big bucks as they say....which is why I really appreciate those who really do go over and above !
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy Yeah vbdad, it does make me feel good. Here in the "southern hospitality" region the guys I wait on are usually really nice and appreciative (I've never had a rude customer or bad experience...yet...*crosses fingers* [lol]). When I do really go out of my way of workin' with somebody for 20 or 30 minutes or helpin' 'em find a belt to match or takin' 'em over to another dept. where someone there can help them with other needs, etc., they almost always do look me in the eye and sincerely thank me for my time and "trouble"---sometimes even shake my hand. There are many times when I'll go back in the stockroom for a 3rd or 4th trip and the guy is so apologetic and says "I'm so sorry to keep sendin' ya back there", and I tell 'em I don't mind at all. A lot of times they'll repeat that at the register and I reaffirm I enjoyed helpin' 'em. I enjoy helpin' someone as much as I can or doin' what I can for 'em---it's the boredom when no one's around that I'm "sorry" about! Lol
Originally Posted By Chelledun >> Why should I pay a portion of someones salary for a business.>> I guess I don't feel like the tipping system is really that horrible. It's not like anyone is being forced to go out to eat. I never understood that about customers who didn't tip, because our restaurant did have a carry out or delivery option. This is the tipping practice we have, so if folks don't want to pay for the service, they should probably not come sit down to be served. My husband and I often order pizza carry out instead of going to sit down exactly because we want to save money on drinks and tip.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> I never understood that about customers who didn't tip, << Just so you'll remember, this topic was originally about having the gratuity plain old figured into your bill in advance, regardless of what you thought of the service level. And the fact that this simply amounts to hiding higher prices in the menu in the bill after you've arrived and ordered. The discussion about tipping at all comes from where subsequent posters have taken it.
Originally Posted By Chelledun ^^Oh I wasn't referring to your original post. I was talking about another poster's complaints about tipping in general. I thought the original topic was an interesting one worth discussing.
Originally Posted By pixiedust1 We recently had dinner at Cape May.. and we were 3 parties that added up to 8.. When we were finished with dinner mu hubby was looking over the bill and it seemed to high, but was still trying to figure in the tip anyways.. The waitress comes over and explains that they added in 18%... when you have 2 or 3 people throwing money across they table at you to cover the bill, it can get messed up... Most restaurants that I've been to, and it's been many, add the tip on with at least 8 or more dinner guests. I'm guessing when I say this.. Ok here goes.. it could that a larger crowd means more then one family and or friends. They could be concerned that somewhere along the line someone will short the tip for all the extra work you do when it's a bigger crowd. Maybe the person handling the bill does not get enough from everyone to give a fair tip.. Most restaurants are pushing tables together to accommadate a larger group.. And from what I've heard the wait staff and the restaurant don't make as much on a party of 8 as they would on say, 4 parties of 2 .. Just some observations and thoughts... maybe someone else has thoughts on this..
Originally Posted By TiggerRulz >> Why should I pay a portion of someones salary for a business.>> Customers pay 100% of the salary for the employees of all businesses. Without tipping, the cost of everything on the menu would just be 20% higher.
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic1 I personally don't mind the gratuity already added into our dining plan. I normally tip 20% so I will just add an additional 5% to the bill when we go in December. I think Disney adds 15% but I am not totally sure.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey I don't mind tipping or having a tip added into the bill outright when it's a large party. The server is taking care of your needs, running back and forth bringing you drinks, your food, extra napkins, etc. It is harder to take care of a large party, and I don't mind paying my server for serving me. I just got back from Disney today and tipped my mousekeeper every day for keeping my room sparkling clean. If it wasn't for her, my bed wouldn't have gotten made and my toilet wouldn't have been scrubbed each day. I don't ind tipping for that as she saw after MY needs.
Originally Posted By pixiedust1 <<December. I think Disney adds 15% but I am not totally sure.>> Are you talking a big party of guests... Disney does not add the tip in parties smaller then six or less... The tip is up to you...
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic1 We always tip the mousekeepers on a daily basis. Those ladies work hard every day to make sure that our rooms are sparkling clean when we return and I love the towel animals when they turn down the beds.
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic1 Pixie, we always use the dining plan at Disney and the gratuity is included in our package for a family of 3. I always tip the extra 5% at the end of dinner.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<Are you talking a big party of guests... Disney does not add the tip in parties smaller then six or less... The tip is up to you...>> The tip is automatically added in if you're on the Disney Dining Plan, regardless of party size.
Originally Posted By CMDad It is also added when using a CM discount. On occasion I have added to it when I thought the server did a particlularly special job.
Originally Posted By pixiedust1 <<Pixie, we always use the dining plan at Disney and the gratuity is included in our package for a family of 3. I always tip the extra 5% at the end of dinner.>> Ok Thanks ... I was not aware the they did it on all parties... and it's nice that you leave a extra 5% ... I wonder how the servers see that 15% down the road when those plans are paid in advance??
Originally Posted By mrichmondj The dining plan gives 18% gratuities for the service. I asked the server at one of the sit down meals. The meals are charged like normal for each dining location and billed to a central WDW account. It's the same as if you paid by credit card.
Originally Posted By pixiedust1 <<The meals are charged like normal for each dining location and billed to a central WDW account. It's the same as if you paid by credit card>> Thank you for that info... Does that server get all of that 18% given to her I wonder...
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Hence the real issue -- back to the restaurants charging what they need to on the menu in order to pay the wait staff a decent salary. No more worries fromthe wait staff about having to potentially pay taxes on money you didn't make........ also the restaurants now pay social security and medicare on the the full amount also.....
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic1 Oh I thought it was 15% but that was probably from a couple of years back. I will still continue to do the same as I have done in the past with the extra 5%. So far we have always had really great service no matter where we dine and I hope that continues. When we tell them that we are on the dining plan they always seem to go above and beyond. <<Does that server get all of that 18% given to her I wonder... >> Good question Pixie.