Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Sorry to be offensive, but sometimes we just need to be honest with ourselves on what is best for people. A pipefitter or welder will make far more in the marketplace than someone with a worthless bachelor's degree in basketweaving." Too late.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << This flies in the face of the good old Republican theory that ig given the chance and the tools, anyone can make it here. >> Thank goodness I'm not a Republican, because that theory is pretty dumb.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <That's a bald faced lie and you know it. Somewhere back in the archives is a post or two by you vowing to leave here because the rest of us aren't worth your time.> No and no. I once said I was tired of Dabob distorting my comments, and I was taking a break from WE, but I've never vowed to leave.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I am still fuming at your comments, so let me show you how a group of people have educated themselves, using their own time and money to improve themselves. I am in charge of a team whose job is to run a network for a Brigade sized element. We do everything from setting up the network, building servers, trouble shooting systems, and configuring switches routers. With help from the GI Bill, my team and I have achieved a combined 17 Technical Certifications, including A+, Network +, Security +, CCNA, and CCNP. These tests are quite expensive so they have been using the GI Bill to supplement the costs of the tests. We have also as a team completed over 40 Semester hours of college, an impressive feat considering not one of us is working less than 12 hours a day. I guarantee you these guys are doing more work than most people in our field. What a waste of taxpayer dollars indeed….
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << With help from the GI Bill, my team and I have achieved a combined 17 Technical Certifications, including A+, Network +, Security +, CCNA, and CCNP. These tests are quite expensive so they have been using the GI Bill to supplement the costs of the tests. >> That's interesting. The network administrators in my unit are getting these certifications funded by the military wihthout having to use GI Bill benefits. Not sure why someone who is alreaday being trained as a network person by the military would have to go out and pay for these certifications out of pocket. Weird.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 "Sorry to be offensive, but sometimes we just need to be honest with ourselves on what is best for people. A pipefitter or welder will make far more in the marketplace than someone with a worthless bachelor's degree in basketweaving."<< I guarantee you very few soldiers get a degree in basketweaving, but believe what you want. Being in the military for quite a few of these young people gives them the discipline and respect needed to succeed in college in the future. A lot of young people are not ready for college at the age of 18, yet they still go, and fail miserably. Why not give those that have sacrificed for their country an opportunity to better themselves.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<Yeah, it really is kinda pathetic, isn't it?> <What's pathetic is that you think I need to prove anything to you, when I've proven you wrong countless times, only to have you deny it.> Thanks for the best laugh I'm likely to have today. This thread isn't that long, so it's easy to see what happened here. You started by insinuating that this editorial couldn't be trusted, simply because it came from the NYT. When challenged to show where, exactly, this particular editorial distorted anything, you could not do so. So you fell back on the usual "I know you are, but what am I" stuff, and then the "I've proven you wrong countless times" stuff, without any examples of that either, of course. And then you're called on it, by numerous people. Once again, we see many people all telling you the same thing, and no one including your fellow conservatives backing you up. Which tells you it's not about ideology, it's about your methods. Which once again MIGHT cause you to take a step back, and take an honest, sober look at yourself and your methods. Or not. I'm guessing... not.
