Originally Posted By Scutr One thing that gets me is, it's called the Dwarf Mine Coaster. They're squawking it as a ride through the dwarf's mine. Yet, from what you can see in the video, you spend almost NO time actually in the mine. Most of the ride seems to take place OUTside. LOL@ the garden gnome comment. Hush! Don't wanna give 'em any cheap ideas!
Originally Posted By WDWVacationer Disnyland has no E-Ticket in FL do they? Do any MK style parks? Maybe only Tokyo with HM.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Give Disney cheap ideas? WDW is using plastic lawn furniture that you can purchase at Walmart on the balconies of all their on property resorts and hotels. Not to mention the same towels are provided at all the on property resorts and hotels regardless of value or deluxe accomodations. Disney has been taking the "cheap" way out for years.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Remember back in the good old days when the princess takeover of SW was supposed to be temporary?<<< HAH, I've never believed that.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Disnyland has no E-Ticket in FL do they?<<< So what? We can be the first.
Originally Posted By WDWVacationer Actually, the Matterhorn may be an E. But, no major show scenes. Darn, that means it is not good enough.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<My beef is that a heavily detailed darkride is being substituted by a kiddie rollercoaster with detailing that so far looks like it's going to amount to the same as garden gnomes placed strategically around the ride.>> Heavily detailed darkride? Wow! Never has so much respect been shown for plywood flats in black-light paint! You would have LOVED my college dorm room!!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Actually, the Matterhorn may be an E. But, no major show scenes. Darn, that means it is not good enough<<< Yes, but it's bulk. It's huge. It's like Space Mountain, no?
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<Actually, the Matterhorn may be an E. But, no major show scenes. Darn, that means it is not good enough.>> If your asking me if I would rather have a matterhorn sitting where the Seven dwarfs mine train will be then I'll gladly take the matterhorn.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<Heavily detailed darkride? Wow! Never has so much respect been shown for plywood flats in black-light paint! You would have LOVED my college dorm room!!>> Jerry, there is very little that I "love" about you.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip But apparently you'd LOVE my black-light posters!! I really like the Disney dark-rides. But Snow White has always been the lamest of the bunch!
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Disnyland has no E-Ticket in FL do they? Do any MK style parks? Maybe only Tokyo with HM. << Small World is an E. Matterhorn is an E. 20,000 Leagues was an E. And many guidebooks, like the Unofficial Guide, consider Peter Pan "not to be missed." (However, it should be noted that DL's version has superior effects compared to MK's.)
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Actually, the Matterhorn may be an E. But, no major show scenes. Darn, that means it is not good enough << Speaking as a fan of the Matterhorn, I'd say you have a point that there aren't elaborate show scenes. But like Space and Big Thunder, there is plenty of theming. Not to mention, if you want to be critical of the Matterhorn, it was build in 1959 and plussed in the 1970s. I would expect the Dwarf Mine Train to be the result of all the things WDI has learned over the years. On the contrary, it seems to be a gussied up kiddy coaster. Yawn.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>If they want to replace the Snow White dark ride with something else that's supposed to be better<<< With all due respect and concern about being sapped with some Witchly hex upon my bones, I have to say that it really wouldn't take that much to be better than Snow Whites Dark ride. It was (is) actually worse than Mr. Toad, and that takes some work. In the 28 years that I have been going to MK, I can tell you that I went on it once, and felt that it was about a half hour of my life (including "Q" time) that I will never get back again. After riding Pirates, HM, 20K, and even CoP all I could think of was...day glow, dusty cardboard? Really? That's the best they could do. For sheer fun, even Journey to Mars was more entertaining.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip At least "Toad" was humorous and had some great sight gags... Snow White was all about "How many times can we show the Scary Witch?"
Originally Posted By Manfried <<If they want to replace the Snow White dark ride with something else that's supposed to be better, the dwarf coaster isn't it.>> I guess The Witches have a better crystal ball than anyone else.
Originally Posted By ttalovebug I guess I'd feel more broken up about this if SWSA was in better condition. Honestly, I do love it, and ride it nearly every time I'm in the park. But the nostalgia and affection I have for it is not enough to blind me to its decaying state. It's a charming classic, but our version has not aged well and would need a massive amount of work in order to look fresh again, an amount of work I don't trust or ever expect TDO to give it. I do believe it's the weakest of the four Snow Whites worldwide. Though I'll miss riding it, that fact that Walt's original is still in DLR (nicely updated, I might add) and that two other superior (IMO) versions are out there means I won't lose sleep over it. Maybe I'm just a silly Pollyanna, but I am pleased we're getting a brand new non-cloned, non-screen based ride. That sounds kind of okay to me. And I'd take brand new ride with M&Gs in SWSA loctation any day over old SWSA and giant M&G princess houses, which we were originally getting.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Snow White worked because of the strengnth of the enviornments...EPIC." I really think you are overstating Snow White's Adventures. It was a cute little dark ride for families and that's about it. Calling it epic is about the most incongruous word I can think of to describe the ride.
