Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I wonder if there would be this outcry if a meat and greet ;-) were not replacing a dark ride?" Yes. Four words: Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>If your asking me if I would rather have a matterhorn sitting where the Seven dwarfs mine train will be then I'll gladly take the matterhorn.<<< As would I. Or something like it. Anything on that scale...
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Small World is an E. Matterhorn is an E. 20,000 Leagues was an E. And many guidebooks, like the Unofficial Guide, consider Peter Pan "not to be missed." (However, it should be noted that DL's version has superior effects compared to MK's.<<< How could I have missed this? 20K should be replaced with an E. Only fair...
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I would say that Mermaid is probably a solid D ticket and that 20K would probably have been downgraded to a D by now, so there you go.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I would say that Mermaid is probably a solid D ticket and that 20K would probably have been downgraded to a D by now, so there you go.<<< Why would 20K be downgraded? That was a great ride?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Why am I questioning the statement I made about a classic ride? LOL. That should be a period...
Originally Posted By danyoung Well, it was something of a classic, but as far as technology and thrill, it was pretty dated.I'd agree that it should have been a strong D in its latter days.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I disagree about it being downgraded, but I do agree that in it's latter years it needed plussing, not a closure.
Originally Posted By piratebrittany I think if one goes on the ride thinking it's crap it's going to be crap. Keep an open mind and it might surprise you I'm looking forward to visiting the completed Fantasyland and seeing if the ride is fun or a waste of space.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Not always PB. I went on Jumping Jellyfish expecting it to be crap and it was fun. We went on Expedition Everest expecting it to be good, and it was less than average. FWIW, I think this coaster will add much to FLE. It is a shame they are removing SWSA, I would prefer a remodel (like they did with DL), but there you go.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>We went on Expedition Everest expecting it to be good, and it was less than average.<<< You didn't like EE? It is one of my favorite Disney coasters. I think the new Seven Dwarfs coaster will be a fun ride, like Crush's Coaster at WDSP, but I'm still a bit sad that the dark ride has to go.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I have to say Dagobert, we were very disappointed. Probably because it was the catalyst to get us to book, and we went only a few months after opening. the Yeti was not even on Disco mode, the cave was just dark. The bird on the stick did not work, and we have rides that change direction in Europe. The only thing I really like is it is pretty to look at when not on it, and the queue is awesome. The attraction (like oh so many things that horrid trip) was a major disappointment.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Just so you know, Manfried, my sisters and I were basing our comments about the dwarf coaster the little video thing that was offered as an idea of what it will be like. ORWEN: Yes, that, along with what ChiMike had to say. ORDDU: Whenever we ride Snow White's Scary Adventures at the M.K., we don't see things 'falling apart' or in 'decay', either. If anything, it's in much better shape than Peter Pan's Flight to Neverland.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I was thinking the same thing ladies. But then I have always felt Peter Pan's flight is overrated.
Originally Posted By piratebrittany That's a shame your trip didn't go well Dave. I love Expedition Everest, granted the times we rode it we hardly waited in line and everything was fully functioning. I have two small problems with it though...it's not long enough and I feel like the build up is kind of awkward. But overall the ride is super fun and I LOVE the theming of the entire attraction and surrounding areas.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo The theming is great overall. It is just the ride itself has pacing issues I think, plus I was super grumpy that the AA I was dying to see couldn't be seen - pick black tunnel instead :-( But yes, all the bits outside of the mountain were disappointing.
Originally Posted By danyoung dave and I disagree on quite a bit, but we always do it with respect for each other (which I really appreciate!). EE is no exception - I think it's incredible. I've been on it when the yeti has been in full motion, and I've been on it when the yeti doesn't move at all and a strobe light goes off. And y'know what? It doesn't make that much difference in my enjoyment of the ride. It's my theory that if someone had no idea what the yeti was supposed to be doing, they'd not be bothered by it in the least that he's currently doing nothing. Yeah, I wish Disney can find a way to fix this. But it's such a tiny part of a great attraction that it makes no difference on my desire to ride. I usually hit it in the morning, and enjoy 3 or 4 rides in a row with less than a 5 to 10 minute wait - very very cool, and always a highlight of my DAK visit!
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I think for a Disney coaster it is very good. Disney doesn't have great coasters... in fact many trips I skip most of them because I just don't think they are worth the lines. Space Mountain is a mad mouse in the dark. Big Thunder Mountain has great themeing but is short on coaster thrills. Rock and Roller has a great launch but other than that is way too short... less than half the duration of Expedition Everest. So I think that judged by Disney coaster standards, EE is very good. I also enjoy the fact that EE has a single rider line so I can experience it without the excessive wait you have at the other coasters. I do miss going through the queue though… certainly a high-point of the EE experience. I don't really go to a Disney park to ride coasters anyway. Silver Dollar City (30 minutes from where I live) has two coasters that are far better than anything Disney has to offer.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>I think if one goes on the ride thinking it's crap it's going to be crap. Keep an open mind and it might surprise you I'm looking forward to visiting the completed Fantasyland and seeing if the ride is fun or a waste of space.<< Agreed. If you think that SWSA was terrible, chances are, you aren't going to grasp the quaint charm, and complexities of that ride.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>ORDDU: Whenever we ride Snow White's Scary Adventures at the M.K., we don't see things 'falling apart' or in 'decay', either. If anything, it's in much better shape than Peter Pan's Flight to Neverland.<<< Yep. I'd rather see that ripped out and given a new venue.
