Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 How the hell does, "HI Ho, Hi Ho, Its off to the ride we go." get 33 thumbs up?!? There are a LOT of lame Disney Mom bloggers out there.....aren't there?
Originally Posted By Manfried Its a rollercoaster with some story. Sheesh. I'm glad some of you don't design attractions.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Why would you have 2 spinners (MK has 3, soon to be 4). This is clearly going to be gentler than Big Thunder. I have to say, there is much to rag on WDW, but I do not find this to be one of them. this looks like a good addition to me. Even if you do not ride it, it will add scenery, greenery and kinetics to what was the ugliest Fantasyland in the Disney empire. That is a plus IMHO. And this looks like fun too.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle Will have to wait and see the final result, but it looks like fun to me. Time will tell...
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad From the posters on the wall in MK it looked like the mine train was occupying quite a large area but did seem to be primarily outside which is opposite what you would think for a "mine train". I look forward to seeing it. I am however so very sad to see the existing Snow White ride go. No it is not thrilling but I still remember my children being scared by the witch when they were little and would have liked for them to be able to share that with their children. There is still a place for rides like that in Disney. As I get older it isn't the thrill ride that I like the most.
Originally Posted By dagobert The Fantasyland Expansion looks really good, but I'm also a little bit disappointed by the Seven Dwarfs Mine Coaster. In general it doesn't look bad, but it's just a better version of Casey Jr. at DLP. I think there aren't enough show scenes.
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself >>So fun in post-Eisner Disney is now looking at trees w/ ONE show scene. Amazing.<< Where is it written that the level of fun for an attraction is directly related to the number of indoor show scenes it has? I must have missed that briefing... It is a fun little coaster-based visit to the world of the dwarfs. It has a couple indoor show scenes and a couple of outside scenes. (Kinda like Big Thunder, no?) That's all it needs to surpass the current dark ride. This isn't an attempt to reinvent the wheel, it's just a fun little D-ticket addition, and definately an upgrade to what is there now. >>What the resort needs is a grand slam, and this isn't it.<< Yep, I've been saying that for...well...it seems like forever. The thing I have to keep telling myself is that the FLE is not an attempt to boost attendance or combat WWoHP. It's just a long overdue attempt to expand the park's capacity. That's all it is. Since the beginning I've been an advocate of the resort needing a new headliner attraction. Something that will boost attendance, grab the attention of the average guest, and get people talking about the parks again. (They had somewhat of a chance with the Space Mountain refurb....but...ball---dropped.)
Originally Posted By 3disneylocations So we're going from a ride that has EIGHT show scenes, SIX Witches, TWO Queens, THREE Snow White's, FOURTEEN Dwarf figures, ONE Skeleton, and ONE Prince to......TWO, count em....TWO SCENES and and only one of them is indoors! Way to upgrade WDI!!!<<< The video isn't of the ccmplete ride just a brief overview. Why don't at least break ground before you Deem it a faliure.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>The video isn't of the ccmplete ride just a brief overview. Why don't at least break ground before you Deem it a faliure.<<< Be careful with this attitude as well. The concept art for Toy Story Playland in Paris looked like it was a dog. A number of us wrote to Disney concerned about the direction of travel. And guess what? They built it anyway and it was just as bad as the art work. In fact some of the defenders and wait and see folks also now agree it was a waste of space and money. But this is thankfully not a Toy Story Playland.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I suspect the ride will be fun, and the vehicles will create a neat sensation. But the problem, as I see it, is that this glorified kiddie coaster isn't nearly enough to pull WDW out of its slump. What the resort needs is a grand slam, and this isn't it.<<< Exactly. We need an E TICKET, not two auxiliary attractions. The aesthetics will be wonderful, but that's not enough for a languishing park like MK.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Its a rollercoaster with some story. Sheesh. I'm glad some of you don't design attractions.<<< There needs to be more story and bulk to it. That's the problem. Without it, what's at the heart of the new FLE? Nothing.
Originally Posted By MousDad Will the coaster part of this attraction be less than, equal to, or greater than Goofini, as far as size/scale/thrill?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I have to say, there is much to rag on WDW, but I do not find this to be one of them. this looks like a good addition to me. Even if you do not ride it, it will add scenery, greenery and kinetics to what was the ugliest Fantasyland in the Disney empire. That is a plus IMHO. And this looks like fun too.<<< Of course, but again, the MK and FLE needs more than just a pretty look.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Will the coaster part of this attraction be less than, equal to, or greater than Goofini, as far as size/scale/thrill?<<< You know, if anything, use Goofini for this, and build something real on the SWSA II plot.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: If that video thing is showing what the ride will end up being, I'm not going to like it. I still wish they'd leave Snow White's Scary Adventures alone, except for a few upgrades. The current dark ride is not as bad as some ducklings around here would have you believe. It's a fine dark ride and much better than the Dwarf coaster looks like it's going to be!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>>>>I have to say, there is much to rag on WDW, but I do not find this to be one of them. this looks like a good addition to me. Even if you do not ride it, it will add scenery, greenery and kinetics to what was the ugliest Fantasyland in the Disney empire. That is a plus IMHO. And this looks like fun too.<<< Of course, but again, the MK and FLE needs more than just a pretty look. <<< No doubt, but under the current Disney leadership, you are never going to get it. Millions of folks around the globe think WDW is the bees knees, and therefore is not likely to receive huge investments. I am sorry, but Disney is no longer what it was. For very cool additions to parks and future ones, may I recommend you cast your eyes to Efteling and Europa Park as well as China.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Disney has not been interesting in creativity for a long time. More like milking the market through synergy. and the majority are buying it. Me? I cast my eyes at what they are doing, but I am seeking new ways to use my time and money. I am now at that point. I have wasted too much time and energy and been too disappointed. I am sure you guys would love Droomvlucht, Ravelijn, Villa Volta and the Flying Dutchman at Efteling - all far better than anything Disney has produced in the swamps in the last 10 years. Sorry, the US economy is in decline (as is Europe), China is in growth, and that is where Disney will invest, dependent on what they will think will bring the greatest returns.
