Originally Posted By RoadTrip I agree with those who say one of the other parks needs a new "E" more than the MK does. The MK frequently closes due to reaching capacity during peak times. I was there the week following Easter once and the MK was closed to non-hotel guests 3 of the 6 days I was there. The crush on Main Street following the evening fireworks is frightening and borders on dangerous. And you want to bring MORE people to the MK? Really? I would like to see Disney Studios get a non-thrill "E"... it is the only WDW park without one. (Great Movie Ride COULD be an E but sadly isn't... don't get me started.)
Originally Posted By ReelJustice MK needs FLE and an E-Ticket to increase capacity, not attendance. FLE essentially gets us back to pre-20K closure capacity. More is needed.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>Universal is listening.<<< Yes, they are listening to their cash registers ring. And they are listening to the public saying nice things about the "Potter" area. That same thing wouldn't happen at Disney, you guys would be complaining about how small it is, how, even though nicely themed, was nothing more than a set up to buy expensive wands from a wizard. How poorly managed it was to have such long lines, how Disney didn't plan very well for the influx of people that wanted to see it. Or how they had placed a Wizard hat in front of an iconic building. (Oops, sorry that's already been done at Disney hasn't it) They happened to get a hold of the hottest commodity in the last 10 years. If Disney had Harry they would be synergizing it everywhere. Probably even on the toilet paper. I don't suppose Disney pulled a big one out of the blue with Pirates do you? Universal is listening for sure, but I wouldn't count on too much of what we were to say negatively would get through.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Yes, they are listening to their cash registers ring. And they are listening to the public saying nice things about the "Potter" area. That same thing wouldn't happen at Disney, you guys would be complaining about how small it is, how, even though nicely themed, was nothing more than a set up to buy expensive wands from a wizard. How poorly managed it was to have such long lines, how Disney didn't plan very well for the influx of people that wanted to see it>> Not really. When Disney builds a ride like Forbidden Journey, hell if they build a ride like Spider-man, I'll be impressed.
Originally Posted By 3disneylocations Someone mentioned and I agree that there should be attraction construction @ each of the four parks at the sametime... This would be a good way to celebrate the 40th; showing what is to come. I think Disney is doing fantastic w/the complete MK facade work and now the Monorail cleaning. They just need to keep the momentum.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> That same thing wouldn't happen at Disney, you guys would be complaining about how small it is, how, even though nicely themed, was nothing more than a set up to buy expensive wands from a wizard. How poorly managed it was to have such long lines, how Disney didn't plan very well for the influx of people that wanted to see it. Or how they had placed a Wizard hat in front of an iconic building. (Oops, sorry that's already been done at Disney hasn't it) << How true. I would just hate for Disney to actually open an impressive, groundbreaking attraction at WDW. I would complain all day if they could equal Tower of Terror or Splash Mountain or Haunted Mansion with something new. Yes, I would just hate that.
Originally Posted By Manfried And here I thought everyone would be in Anaheim at that insipid D23 thing and I would have the discussion threads to myself.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "Don't get the IASW hate... classic Disney, classic World's Fair, classic Mary Blair art. It's a staple." Thank you sir! I was actually thinking of starting a thread on this very topic a while back. I have come to think it's kind of a "I'm with the cool kids if I rag in IASW". You don't want to appear to be the odd one out that likes it when everyone is saying they don't! The song is a Disney CLASSIC and the attraction is charming - plus I just LOVE Disney attractions that are boat rides. There's just something wonderful about moving through a show building. Will NEVER understand the hate for this classic!
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "It's a shame. We just came into some surprise money and decided to give a gift to our adult children. We offered Disney AP's. They opted for Universal instead. They are big Disney fans but see Universal as a better option this year." Kinda says it all, doesn't it? Quality and spending patterns will out!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I agree with those who say one of the other parks needs a new "E" more than the MK does. The MK frequently closes due to reaching capacity during peak times. I was there the week following Easter once and the MK was closed to non-hotel guests 3 of the 6 days I was there. The crush on Main Street following the evening fireworks is frightening and borders on dangerous. And you want to bring MORE people to the MK? Really?<<< Uhm... the point of adding an E Ticket is to open up space and give more room to those people. If that's your idea of a legitimate excuse to not build in The Magic Kingdom, I really can't fathom your ideas to actually build.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Thank you sir! I was actually thinking of starting a thread on this very topic a while back. I have come to think it's kind of a "I'm with the cool kids if I rag in IASW". You don't want to appear to be the odd one out that likes it when everyone is saying they don't! The song is a Disney CLASSIC and the attraction is charming - plus I just LOVE Disney attractions that are boat rides. There's just something wonderful about moving through a show building. Will NEVER understand the hate for this classic!<<< I quite agree with your "ragging' claim, and you are welcome.... Yeah, I'm man enough to admit that I like a slow moving ride with song and music. Heaven forbid.
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself I don't hate IASW. I just don't find it entertaining or enjoyable. At all. Different strokes, and all that...
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Uhm... the point of adding an E Ticket is to open up space and give more room to those people. If that's your idea of a legitimate excuse to not build in The Magic Kingdom, I really can't fathom your ideas to actually build.>> Sure... but wouldn't a top-notch "E" bring a larger number of people into the park than the attraction could soak up? I still think the net effect would have to be increased crowding. Of course a new attraction does NOTHING to reduce the mayhem on Main Street after the fireworks show... a new "E" ticket would do nothing to increase the capacity there.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I can't believe that some folks are up in arms over this ride as a replacement for Snow White's Adventures. This obviously 100 times better.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I don't hate IASW. I just don't find it entertaining or enjoyable. At all. Different strokes, and all that..<<< With you, I know that. Trust me. With others? Eh, the level of dislike expressed toward it is a bit too much. As the phrase goes... "You protest too much." Same things happen with COP and CBJ and Tiki Room...
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Sure... but wouldn't a top-notch "E" bring a larger number of people into the park than the attraction could soak up? I still think the net effect would have to be increased crowding. Of course a new attraction does NOTHING to reduce the mayhem on Main Street after the fireworks show... a new "E" ticket would do nothing to increase the capacity there.<<< Nope, that's not how it works, new attractions usually soak up existing crowds, especially after MK's people eaters have been slaughtered after the past decades. Attendance is already increasing just by the nature of how people go to Disney, so this can only help. The only sort of crowding would take place near the new attraction, which, if designed properly (without FP, a nice queue, what have you) can be a easy problem to remedy. Look at IOA. Potter was packed. JP and Spidey? Busy, but not insane.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Well, Doctor Hans, duckling, I can't believe people were so up in arms over not liking Snow White's Scary Adventures. It's obviously better than this dwarf coaster looks like it's gonna' be!
Originally Posted By 999HAUNTS This actually looks like it's going to be tons of fun. We spoke to a Parks and Recreation CM at the D23 convention. He said it will be (in scale) larger that Goofini and smaller than Thunder Mountain. There was a mine car prototype there for us to see. We were shown how it's pendulum motion (powered only by centrifugal force) causes the thrill level of the ride. This really does look like it's going to be a tummy tickling adventure. From the model shown, it does look very similar to Thunder Mountain. However, the CM explained that the experience will have a different feel to it. This will be due to the themed scenery aiming towards making you feel like you are in a run-away mine car through the Dwarf's mine.
