Originally Posted By leobloom >> If you were dead from the neck up... << Have there always been signs labelling what's in the big tanks? Are there signs that do that now?
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "Now this whole illusion is gone, there is no preshow, there are no hydrolators, up or down, there is only a ride, on finding Nemo." What the......?!? When did this happen?!? This SUCKS!!!!!!!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> Nope, no, nein, wrongo, false. Only EPCOT Center diehards remember TLS fondly. I know of no regular guest or casual fan that laments the loss of the pavilion.<<< Just because you disliked it doesn't mean the rest of the world did too, Hokie. On that note, I'm sure it's not as liked as I liked it. That said..no denying it's theme fit EPCOT better than Nemo ever will.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>Eh, I doubt you'll see much more outside of Pixar Place, which is fine for me.<<< I wish we could move all Pixar attractions there...
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>Have there always been signs labelling what's in the big tanks? Are there signs that do that now?<< It's not the signs that make the difference. It's how the pavilion as a whole is presented. Cartoon Brat Fishy ain't cutting it... But the Bathrooms are nice. ;-)
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >> What the......?!? When did this happen?!? This SUCKS!!!!!!<< Began in '98 when they cut one of the PreShow rooms, really took off when they shuttered the SeaCabs and you walked to SB Alpha in 2005, and ended in 2006 when cartoons became "OK" for EPCOT.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> It's not the signs that make the difference. It's how the pavilion as a whole is presented. Cartoon Brat Fishy ain't cutting it... << I was just curious if there are or had ever been signs that identified what's in the main aquarium. Seems like an essential part of an aquarium which is basically what TLS was. >> But the Bathrooms are nice. ;-) << The fishy smell is a great Disney detail.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper >>Just because you disliked it doesn't mean the rest of the world did too, Hokie. On that note, I'm sure it's not as liked as I liked it. That said..no denying it's theme fit EPCOT better than Nemo ever will.<< Never said no one liked it, but it was the one pavilion that was consistently empty during the EPCOT Center years I visited. ANd it's not one of the pavilions I've ever heard people say they "miss" outside of Disney boards. Sure the original Seas fit better, but this one is much more fun. <<I wish we could move all Pixar attractions there...>> Give it time. It just opened 2 years ago. <<Cartoon Brat Fishy ain't cutting it...>> The numbers say otherwise...
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 I think too much effort has been put into making EPCOT more kid friendly. Too much cutesy stuff IMHO
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^Sorry...I just don't see Epcot as being cutesy at all. Other than Nemo and Imagination(which was always kid-oriented), I don't see the park as being too cutey.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Sure the original Seas fit better, but this one is much more fun.<<< Your opinion. The heart of the matter is...It was easy, it makes money, it's not up to Disney thematic quality. >>>The numbers say otherwise...<<< It was dead in August, dead in December. Mom ride it while Krank and I did M:S...LOL.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>^^^Sorry...I just don't see Epcot as being cutesy at all. Other than Nemo and Imagination(which was always kid-oriented), I don't see the park as being too cutey.<<< Have you SEEN how the park is branded and marketed?!?!?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<It was dead in August, dead in December. Mom ride it while Krank and I did M:S...LOL.>> It's not "dead". It's a heavy moving attraction. If you consider that dead, then SSE would also be considered "dead" most of the day. <<Have you SEEN how the park is branded and marketed?!?!?>> No. I haven't seen a piece of Epcot marketing since the early 90s. From WDW marketing you wouldn't know there are 4 parks. And "branded" means nothing to me.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>It's not "dead". It's a heavy moving attraction. If you consider that dead, then SSE would also be considered "dead" most of the day.<<< It was popular in 06, 07, and 08, I waited in those lines... The past times have been dead. SSE has had waits since it opened. And these are at peak times, (Aug and Dec). >>>No. I haven't seen a piece of Epcot marketing since the early 90s. From WDW marketing you wouldn't know there are 4 parks.<<< You just proved my point...You've said it yourself that the marketing for WDW/EPCOT/4 Parks is kiddy and subpar.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<You just proved my point...You've said it yourself that the marketing for WDW/EPCOT/4 Parks is kiddy and subpar.>> Ummm....I fail to see where I said that. I said there's no Epcot marketing. How marketing that doesn't exist is kiddy is beyond me...
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Ummm....I fail to see where I said that. I said there's no Epcot marketing. How marketing that doesn't exist is kiddy is beyond me...<<< You said EPCOT Marketing is essentially the marketing used for the entire Resort. We've all complained that the Marketing sucks. See where I'm going with this?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<You said EPCOT Marketing is essentially the marketing used for the entire Resort.>> I said nothing of the sort, haha.
Originally Posted By WDW Imagineer <<Sorry...I just don't see Epcot as being cutesy at all. Other than Nemo and Imagination(which was always kid-oriented), I don't see the park as being too cutey>> Do we really want epcot to be "cutesy" Did walt want the park to be "cutesy" I for one want it to remain disney's most true to life experience
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^No, never said it should be cutesy. But there's nothing wrong with an attraction for the kids. And Walt never thought of EPCOT as a theme park so we can't comment on that.
