Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Well, you've come back to the heart of the manner. That WDW doesn't pay enough, is therefore understaffed, and desperate for every soul that shows up, and can't send people home because their hair is the wrong color.>> Pay isn't everything. It's a factor in job satisfaction, sure, but not the only one. But that just means Disney management is not doing such a great job in those other areas to see that their employees are happy and motivated.
Originally Posted By MinnieSummer Going back to the beginning of this thread wherein people were complaining about the CM's uniforms being faded, etc due to their washing them themselves -- don't blame management for that, a few years ago the Union fought to get CM's the right to wash their own uniforms. So the problem isn't entirely management although the ability to wear the uniforms outside of the parks is.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Trust me, from a traditional 'career path' employment situation, it is not just Central Florida. Services jobs can be had anywhere, and in many cases are being filled by those losing their jobs elsewhere in industry.<< So true. Whay amazes me is how expensive housing has become in Orlando, given the dearth of high paying jobs.
Originally Posted By fkurucz ^^On the other hand, I read an article the other day that described an Orlando couple that can't unload their house, even though they have lowered their asking price almost 20%.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <So true. Whay amazes me is how expensive housing has become in Orlando, given the dearth of high paying jobs.< there are a fair number of software companies who have moved there, due to the fairly low average age of the area and increasing education levels.. But all of Florida has risen dramatically. I wanted to purchase our retirement home about 5 years ago when we started looking seriously, but DW wouldn't buy off on 2 mortgages for a while. So we didn't and now the house I wanted for $390K is closer to $850K - and no longer the bargain it was --
Originally Posted By alexbook >>I didn't mean to make it sound as if they are to be blamed for that but if I was a CM, you would not catch me dead in a WDW costume in my local Publix supermarket or the like.<< So, do you get off work, go home, change clothes, then go out again and do your shopping? ----- I think most CM's take great pride in their appearance. It would be great if management could cull the ones who don't, but then who would take their place?
Originally Posted By alexbook >>^^^Here here! Well said, and to quote you again... NO ONE notices the infractions. Life must be sweet for some CMs there.<< Leads notice the infractions, but what can they do about them? Send somebody home, when they're already short-staffed? Yeah, those people are less likely to get raises and promotions, but odds are they're not planning to stick around very long anyway.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 There are some basic truths here: 1.) No one is forced to work at WDW. As stated there are loads of service sector jobs in the Orlando area that pay far more. 2.) Because Disney has overexpanded they can no longer be selective at all and will hire anyone, which lowers the quality of the guest experience and likely lowers morale with the good CMs. 3.) Disney doesn't pay close to what it should. Free theme park admissions aren't all that great when you almost live at the parks. And 50% off a $400 a night room isn't going to be remotely affordable for most front-line CMs. 4.) In a market like Orlando's, something as small as $1 an hour across the board increase would GREATLY improve both morale and help hiring.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>So, do you get off work, go home, change clothes, then go out again and do your shopping?<< Actually I do because by the time I get home, I have been in the same pair of underwear for over 16 hrs, and I smell like dirty aircraft.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey >>So, do you get off work, go home, change clothes, then go out again and do your shopping?<< I do as well because I have to dress in a business-like manner for work. Once I'm off work I like to get comfortable, even to go shopping. Why can't CMs bring a change of clothes to work, get out of their costumes and then go shopping?
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Why can't CMs bring a change of clothes to work, get out of their costumes and then go shopping?>> Are there still lockers for CM's to use?
Originally Posted By alexbook >>I do as well because I have to dress in a business-like manner for work. Once I'm off work I like to get comfortable, even to go shopping.<< Once I get home in the evening and take my shoes off, there's no way I'm getting up again and going out for anything short of an earthquake. ;-P
Originally Posted By idleBrain <<Actually I do because by the time I get home, I have been in the same pair of underwear for over 16 hrs, and I smell like dirty aircraft.>> Eau de Boeing... just one of many perks.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Actually, I don't blame Boeing for that. My employer flies the filthiest planes in the sky. Like WDW, they pinch pennies in that dept.
Originally Posted By Labuda I've flown with your airline on a couple of trips, TDLFAN - never once did I encounter a dirty plane. Are they maybe a bit cleaner on domestic flights than the international trips you do?
Originally Posted By MPierce >>Actually, I don't blame Boeing for that. My employer flies the filthiest planes in the sky. Like WDW, they pinch pennies in that dept.<< I bet if you worked for Japan Airlines, it would be better working conditions.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Maybe your employers is mine as well since our planes *are* the filthiest, and Labuda... I live on those planes. The domestic ones never see cleaning thru the day, unlike the international fleet, where cleaners come on at the end of the flight and truly clean it.
