Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Disney should operate at full capacity but if i were making $6 an hour would i be sweating to make sure more people could ride per hour? umm probably not.>> When people are asking for Disney to operate at full capacity, they're not saying the CM's need to work harder, but that all vehicles are in operation. Rides like the Subs or the Autopia often run fewer vehicles until there are bigger crowds.
Originally Posted By TP2000 This whole queueless wait thing sounds so gimmicky. It's sounds like something that could only be dreamed up in a conference room where the oxygen level was a tad low and the coffee had gone cold.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "I'm imagining these games aren't just regular off the shelf games but ride related like the new interactive games in the queue for WDW's Space Mountain." I haven't been on WDW's Space since it reopened, but from what I've seen of the games, they aren't that unique and they won't entertain folks for that long. They seem like they're basically the same type of game as Space Invaders from the 80's, but with updated graphics. While a game like this would be exciting for 30-90 seconds in a longer queue line, I can't imagine kids (or adults) today who would want to spend an hour or more playing it. I'm sure they could make the games semi-themed to the attraction, but without partnering with a bigger gaming company, I just don't think they will be able to make games that are fun for long periods of time. Make a Bejeweled-type game where you have to match icons to save Dumbo's mom at the circus, but how long will people really want to play it? I'd guess after 15 minutes (which is a pretty short wait for most of the attractions that would probably get this system) most guests would be tired of it.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Why do you have to play games anyway? Can't you just sit there and enjoy the relaxation? They should have people going around giving foot massages and handing out cocktails.
Originally Posted By TP2000 Now you're talking Constance! I was thinking the same thing. If I could just be left alone on a sofa with some magazines and a drink, that might be okay for 30 minutes or so. But video games and a churro? Blech.
Originally Posted By Hista98 I say No to me it would seem much more obvious that I was waiting. It would be like the DMV. plus what if the system has technical problems then people who showed up after you could go first. And what if the ride has no line. Will you still have to wait? Disney does a good job of hiding the queues anyway plus I would rather fell like I was moving and have things to look at then just sitting and being bored. Lets see if this flops that will be 4 billion 1.1 million dollars Disney has wasted this year on Junk!!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I think it COULD work for certain attractions, but not so well for others. How's that for ambiguous?
Originally Posted By mousermerf I prefer pre-shows, and even with the most extensive of those they still need a line. Queue-less wont work during peak periods. What will they do? Have lots and lots and lots of little rooms? Add more video games just for NYE?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I can see it working for something like the new MK Dumbo, since a). That's generally something relatively small kids and their parents go on, so they can tailor the waiting to that group, and not have to worry about entertaining ALL ages, etc. b). they're building it new with that in mind, so won't have to retrofit, c). It's an extremely boring wait otherwise. I could even see it working for, say, Space Mountain if they built a waiting room that was sort of like a planetarium (just thinking off the top of my head here), with a loooong loop on the constellations (there are enough so that you wouldn't just see the same ones over and over), with a "boarding for the stars" message board like an airport that announced the "departures" for those waiting. One problem is that it simply takes more space to seat x-number of people comfortably than to fit that same x-number standing. So while I love the idea of saving my poor feet and sitting for long stretches rather than standing for long stretches, I wonder how this would ever work park-wide. But hey - if they can do it on a select few and just save you, say, four or five 45-60 minute standing waits (sitting instead), that could improve the overall experience.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I'm sure they could make the games semi-themed to the attraction, but without partnering with a bigger gaming company, I just don't think they will be able to make games that are fun for long periods of time." Anything is better than standing in a line, don't you think? No matter how great or horrible the games are everyone won't be able to play anyway, so the activity is nothing more than an added perk.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I say No to me it would seem much more obvious that I was waiting." You realize that most of Disney's theater attractions already have systems like this in place, right? At DLR The Lincoln show is a good example and so is Muppets. Even The Haunted Mansion has a preshow that entertains before you actually board the vehicle. I sort of assumed that the proposed queueless projects would be modeled after the waiting areas for attractions like these.
Originally Posted By mousermerf <<<Anything is better than standing in a line, don't you think?>>> If you're only concerned about getting from thrill ride to thrill ride then I suppose you could have that outlook. I enjoy well themed queues for their ambiance and nuance.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Not with stupid video games made by kids are carnegie mellon who don't understand what a theme park really is and with no real skills in the game design industry either.
Originally Posted By Hista98 but what about the rides that already have queues like say Indy? thats a very long and elaborete queue. If people wait outside for a certian time and then walk to the loading area they still have to walk through the old line anyway which is basiclly like waiting in line. I'm also betting that they load area may get backed up which could cause (ready for it) a line. Leading to people complain Saying "I thought there were no more lines in Disney" and "We already waited our turn" I hope Disney is aware of this possible flaw and aware of the fact that guests will get more upset if they have to wait for x amount of time then have to wait again. plus what if the ride breaks down? do the people who are on the rides get a new time, but what about those who were already scheduled? Do the people who were on the ride take their times or do those people get to skip over those who had already waited? Also what about park closing time? how does it work then? I think it could work but there are a lot of flaws to this system I hope Disney sees and has a plan for.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Not with stupid video games made by kids are carnegie mellon who don't understand what a theme park really is and with no real skills in the game design industry either." God, I hope I never become that cynical. "but what about the rides that already have queues like say Indy? If people wait outside for a certian time and then walk to the loading area they still have to walk through the old line anyway which is basiclly like waiting in line. I'm also betting that they load area may get backed up which could cause (ready for it) a line." I think you're getting way ahead of yourself. I'm guessing that this system would only be installed in attractions that could accommodate it. Therefore, I wouldn't worry about Indy, or any attraction, until Disney or some other reliable source has announced that this rumor is even true. "plus what if the ride breaks down? do the people who are on the rides get a new time, but what about those who were already scheduled?" Hista, seriously, what happens now when people are in line and a ride breaks down? What happens now if a guest has a FP and the ride has broken down when they return? How would this waiting room scenario be any different if a ride suddenly closed down? Since you're a cast member I'm surprised that you don't have a better understanding of how this stuff works.
Originally Posted By Hista98 and what about foreign guests who don't speak english, if there is no line and they don't understand english then they aren't going to know what to do to go on the ride? A line is better because its a universal way of understanding waiting. If they are told to wait in a large room but don't know whats going on they will most likley leave. It happens sometimes at Hista we will get a group that doesn't speak english they will go wait and then after a few minutes either leave or go into the thetare early. Having a line solves the problem becuase its a given what you do follow the person ahead of you and get into the car it works with all langueges I'm worried that Disney isn't considering these problems and only looking at the ride like it never breaks and only gets english guests and if its done with some kind of number or time to determine when you go and they don't read english they aren't going to know when. I guess I have bies becuase I'm a CM and this new idea brings up a lot of problems that having lines solved.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Well, just how many of these theme park games have you all played? I've played the vast majority of them - and they all universally suck.
