Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<And until you and others stop coming to LP to participate, it's not going to change either. The gate swings both ways.>> I'm not leaving. If I leave, and others like me leave, then nothing will change. And BTW, you said earlier that Spirit never insults anyone personally. How many of his posts have been ADMINed? He was forced to change his LP handle when he got kicked off in his earlier incarnation for violating standards. But he doesn't insult anyone, right?
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey It was also not so long ago that Spirit said I was so unintelligent that I didn't realize he had internet in China and that he would be able to answer my posts. So polite!
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Geez Louise... is your skin actually this thin? Someone thinks your judgment is less than stellar and you get all worked up. So what if you think Spirit is insulting you? You're an adult, supposedly. What's the big deal? Not everyone is going to agree with your pixie dusted attitude about WDW. And if they become frustrated with your attitude towards their disagreement, why would you care so much? You claim that they're the ones who are attacking you and insulting you and causing you all kinds of grief and trauma. From what I can see, you're not exactly behaving like a mature adult. You're digging in your heels and drawing a line in the sand, daring those who disagree with you to keep posting their sentiments about WDW and pixie dust addicted fanbois, as you seem to be. And who cares how many times Spirit's posts have been ADMINed. We all get the red ink from time to time. These boards would be boring if we didn't. From the tone of your posts, you seem to want everything to go your way. You seem to want everyone to agree with you and accept you for the fabulous LP poster you apparently think you are. And since you seem to want everyone to like you, I would guess that you're really ticked off that Spirit doesn't like you. That's why his supposed "insults" get your goat so much. Why don't you take a vacation from these boards and chill out? This isn't a popularity contest and you're not running for LP Prom Queen. Not everyone is going to like you. Heck, I'm pretty sure I don't like you, based on the few posts I've read from you just tonight. You need to develop a thicker skin if you're going to play this posting game on discussion boards.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey Yes, I lose sleep over the fact that Spirit doesn't like me. Sweetpea, you're the one who said Spirit doesn't insult people. I just provided you with examples to prove you were wrong. I'm not alone in my problem with Spirit's attitude. Read the earlier posts on this board. You keep talking about my "pixie dust attitude," which I've already debunked. WDW was better - we all know it. I'm not going to continue hammering on a nail that's already been beaten to a sliver. You seem to be pretty upset by my posts - I'm the thin skinned one? bobbelee raised a point earlier in this thread - why do some people need to insult others when expressing their opinions? I commented because I agree with her. It's funny that people constantly ask why guests at WDW aren't courteous anymore, but we allow posters in our own backyard to treat people as though they are beneath them. Spirit's attitude doesn't "cause me grief and anguish," as you mistakenly seem to think. It bothers me and it bothers others because it's rude and boorish, and I believe it has upset the dynamic here. You've been here two years, I've been 10 - my skin's pretty thick, but I'm not going to let anyone talk down to me like he/she is better than me and dismissing my opinions like they don't count.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Geez Louise... is your skin actually this thin? << Welcome to our modern-day entitlement society. "I have the right not to be offended ever and if I am...you'd better watch out!" Still find it hard to believe that anyone would spend $1000s to go to WDW right now. Oh, please, Lord Nikki, don't banish me to the hinterland for voicing a negative opinion of WDW. I didn't mean it! WDW's toilets are golden! Would you care to share a drink from their bowls?!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Because I want it back to what it was - back when it wasn't negative 90% of the time. Back when people expressed differing opinions and weren't insulted for it.<<< Funny, I want WDW back to how it was.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>It was also not so long ago that Spirit said I was so unintelligent that I didn't realize he had internet in China and that he would be able to answer my posts. So polite!<<<< Meanwhile, you were insulting him.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "BUT Disney is making WDW worth the money. I just had one trip scheduled to DL and one trip to WDW exact same weekends(my birthday). Flights much cheaper flying into MCO vs LAX, free Magic Express to WDW not offered with DL Resorts; POP Century Value Resort $65 per night versus BWParkPlace on harbor $159 per night. I did not have free dining but I do believe everybody else at WDW had free dining. I know this is part of the problem but the crowds certainly seemed happy." Hmmmm, this is the concern. Where is the driver to increase quality when the masses are happy due to discounting. If WDW charged doubled DL and offered the quality of Disneyland or better than I would be happy. The concern is the quality is becoming more and more Walmart and I think this post demonstrates some of the factors why.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "BUT Disney is making WDW worth the money. I just had one trip scheduled to DL and one trip to WDW exact same weekends(my birthday). Flights much cheaper flying into MCO vs LAX, free Magic Express to WDW not offered with DL Resorts; POP Century Value Resort $65 per night versus BWParkPlace on harbor $159 per night. I did not have free dining but I do believe everybody else at WDW had free dining. I know this is part of the problem but the crowds certainly seemed happy." Hmmmm, this is the concern. Where is the driver to increase quality when the masses are happy due to discounting. If WDW charged doubled DL and offered the quality of Disneyland or better than I would be happy. The concern is the quality is becoming more and more Walmart and I think this post demonstrates some of the factors why.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Honestly WDW has improved the bus service tremendously. I guess the wake-up call they experienced recently has caught their attention. They are monitoring the bus lines. Every night three buses were pulling up one right after another for POP Century. They seem to be finally adding up the hotel guest count and extra hours plus holiday crowds equals a need for more buses immediately!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>This has been a facinating read...<<< And I thought it would be a quick question.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >> POP Century Value Resort $65 per night versus BWParkPlace on harbor $159 per night<< I routinely find lodging in Anaheim for less than $159, and at better hotels. Plus the rooms at the Pop remind me of Motel 6. Also whenever I check rates at Pop or All Stars its usually closer to $100.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub that rate was offered to guests before their checkout date last august. I compared those 2 locations because I was actually confirmed at both spots for the exact same time period and i consider BWPP location to be comparable to a value resort. I think DL is getting to be more expensive. You can not have the option at DL to stay on property recently. Even the PP has become more expensive lately.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I am a Hiltonhonors member and have over 600,000 points. I was considering using them at Disney overseas. Have any suggestions? I just keep accumulating points . Is I-4 in Florida or California...I never drive...?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Florida... and where I'm staying this weekend. LOL. I never stay onsite. Not worth it when you can get a suite and free breakfast for the same price as Pop.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub This weekend you will have so much fun. hope you post a happy exhausted trip report! Happy Holidays!
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Do you drive back and forth? The traffic will be a challenge...what shuttle service is available to the I-4resorts? I noticed the new Hilton on property had a big motorcoach in use for their shuttle service and I am guessing they had to use the ticket and transport center for transfers. Since I travel by myself I will always choose WDW onsite.
