Originally Posted By Labuda "Jesus said multiple times in multiple ways that we do not have the right to judge anyone." And yet we have capital punishment in this country, and my state murders far more people than any other. I was having this discussion last night with a dear friend who happens to be conservative. When we were done discussing other points, he went to the "well, you do support the death penalty, right?" question since most people here in Texas would say yes. Needless to say, I do not think I have the right to say another person should live or die and I don't think any other person has that right, either. I especially am not down with state-sponsored murder, which is how I view the death penalty.
Originally Posted By DAR <<Interesting. I believe you both are children of God - Jesus just got him for a Dad of his spirit AND his body! >> We're all children of God, Jesus just got the better genes.
Originally Posted By Labuda I beg to differ. After all, I have air conditioning and indoor plumbing, whereas Jesus didn't. So, my genes are better because they came about now instead of 2000 years ago.
Originally Posted By DAR ^^^ You don't think Jesus could have whipped up some air conditioning or indor plumbing?
Originally Posted By LPFan22 ~~~I beg to differ. After all, I have air conditioning and indoor plumbing, whereas Jesus didn't. So, my genes are better because they came about now instead of 2000 years ago. ~~~ Your genes are no better than anyone else's.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<Needless to say, I do not think I have the right to say another person should live or die and I don't think any other person has that right, either.>> God, how I wish more people in this country believed that! How such a supposed "Christian" nation can still allow state-sponsored execution is really beyond me.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Dar, what in the sam hell are you doing in WE????????????????????
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 <<Needless to say, I do not think I have the right to say another person should live or die and I don't think any other person has that right, either.>> I also do not believe in the death penalty. It amazes me how so many of the ultra-conservative Christians think that abortion is an unpardonable sin but that the death penalty is fine and they do not see anything wrong with logic. Say what you want about the Catholics but at their views on life are consistent.
Originally Posted By DAR <<It amazes me how so many of the ultra-conservative Christians think that abortion is an unpardonable sin but that the death penalty is fine and they do not see anything wrong with logic>> I'm not advocating any position here, but it might come down to what is considered an innocent child vs an adult who committed a horrific act of violence. I'm just throwing that out there.
Originally Posted By DAR <<Dar, what in the sam hell are you doing in WE????????????????????>> Participating in civil conversations
Originally Posted By Labuda "Your genes are no better than anyone else's." Oh, I know. I'm just saying I much prefer being alive now to being alive 2000 years ago.
Originally Posted By Labuda "<<Needless to say, I do not think I have the right to say another person should live or die and I don't think any other person has that right, either.>> God, how I wish more people in this country believed that! How such a supposed "Christian" nation can still allow state-sponsored execution is really beyond me. " Yeah, state-sponsored murder happens in the US and places like Iran and Iraq, the people we want to be nothing like (I assume, based on us invading one unprovoked and nearly invading the other).
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I'm just saying I much prefer being alive now to being alive 2000 years ago.<< Was you there?
Originally Posted By LPFan22 ~~~Oh, I know. I'm just saying I much prefer being alive now to being alive 2000 years ago. ~~~ Gotcha. I don't know... for me, it would have been amazing to walk the streets with Jesus. No matter what time I could have lived in, I wouldn't have known any different anyway.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>it would have been amazing to walk the streets with Jesus<< Especially in Venice! ; )
Originally Posted By Labuda ">>I'm just saying I much prefer being alive now to being alive 2000 years ago.<< Was you there?" I dunno. Does reincarnation exist?
