Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance When the Earth is over, and humans don't exist anymore, how many of us will get into heaven? What is the exact number?
Originally Posted By utahjosh I don't have a number, and my version of heaven is quite different than the heaven vs hell you typically hear about. Best to say I believe most people who lived on earth will be received into an eternity of joy. Not pain. Check Mormon.org for more answers while I'm asleep. Lol. Night.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance lol I can't go to those kinds of sites if my husband sees them on the history list he'll ask questions! lol.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster Don't do it. It's a carefully prepared trap of manipulation and deceit meant to guilt you into believing their ways. I used to teach Mormon doctrine. It's all a ruse.
Originally Posted By dshyates You guys keep watching the coverage today. Rev. Jones is in NYC, but his son said there will be some sort of happening even though they will NOT be burning anything. I will be wearing a bright green polo with my stations logo. I am sure I will be in simeones shot. I ended up on CNN's shot on Thurs. our stuff most likely won't be carried by CNN since they now have their own crew here. There are lots of wackos here who say maybe they will burn the "Koran". So it will be an interesting day.
Originally Posted By Labuda re the article linked in #143 that says this: ""People here, the vast majority, still hold a regard for scripture and traditional biblical values," said Paul Blair, pastor of the Fairview Baptist Church in Edmond. "If liberalism, if the Devil himself, can make inroads in Oklahoma, that would be a great victory (for them) to be trumpeted across the land."" Wow, liberalism = the Devil. I LOVE how open-minded and Christian this Baptist douchebag is.
Originally Posted By Labuda Ok, just finished the article, and THIS dude I dig: "It's not the people who don't believe in God that worry me," said Robin Meyers, senior minister at Mayflower Congregational Church in Oklahoma City and a professor of rhetoric at Oklahoma City University. "It's some of the people who do. "Fundamentalism is the enemy worldwide, no matter what the strain."
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I always thought it was ironic that Christians, who presumably believe in the Devil and shun "evil" supernatural things, happily celebrate Halloween with their kids. Not to mention taking their families to Disneyland, which features witches, ghosts, Chernobog (the Slavic Black God), and other entertainment that are contradictory to Christian teachings.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Many fundamentalist Christians don't celebrate Halloween, and some even set up "Hallelujah Houses" rather than Haunted Houses. Your average Christian non-fundy household (like mine) had/has no problem with Halloween.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance "I always thought it was ironic that Christians, who presumably believe in the Devil and shun "evil" supernatural things, happily celebrate Halloween with their kids. Not to mention taking their families to Disneyland, which features witches, ghosts, Chernobog (the Slavic Black God), and other entertainment that are contradictory to Christian teachings." That's probably because luckily today most Christians aren't REALLY Christian, Christans. Sure they believe in God, but have pretty much abandoned all the traditional teachings and beliefs and probably don't go to church or anything either.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Christians, who presumably believe in the Devil and shun "evil" supernatural things, happily celebrate Halloween with their kids.<< If they do, it's a very safe, sanitized, cartoony version of it. Heavy on the spiders and skeletons, light on the vampires and serial killers. At least in my neck of the woods. YMMV. >>Chernobog (the Slavic Black God) ... contradictory to Christian teachings.<< Maybe you better watch that segment of Fantasia again to refresh your memory ...
Originally Posted By mawnck Hmmmmm. The ORIGINAL Ground Zero Mosque .... >>It turns out there was a Muslim prayer room on the 17th floor of the south tower of the World Trade Center, where Americans and other traveling Muslims prayed every day. On September 11th, 2001, when a handful of terrorists flew planes into the towers, some of the folks who used the room evacuated in time. Others probably didn't.<< <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/there-already-was-a-ground-zero-mosque-2010-9" target="_blank">http://www.businessinsider.com...e-2010-9</a>
Originally Posted By mawnck Aaaaaaand another thing .... >>But let me state a more radical thesis: The threat of terrorism cannot become the singular focus of the United States. Let me push it further: The United States cannot subordinate its grand strategy to simply fighting terrorism even if there will be occasional terrorist attacks on the United States. Three thousand people died in the 9/11 attack. That is a tragedy, but in a nation of over 300 million, 3,000 deaths cannot be permitted to define the totality of national strategy. Certainly, resources must be devoted to combating the threat and, to the extent possible, disrupting it. But it must also be recognized that terrorism cannot always be blocked, that terrorist attacks will occur and that the world’s only global power cannot be captive to this single threat.<< >>The United States is a global power and, as such, it must have a global view. It has interests and challenges beyond this region and certainly beyond Afghanistan. The issue there is not whether the United States can or can’t win, however that is defined. The issue is whether it is worth the effort considering what is going on in the rest of the world. Gen. David Petraeus cast the war in terms of whether the United States can win it. That’s reasonable; he’s the commander. But American strategy has to ask another question: What does the United States lose elsewhere while it focuses on the future of Kandahar?<< <a href="http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20100907_911_and_9_year_war" target="_blank">http://www.stratfor.com/weekly...year_war</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "That's probably because luckily today most Christians aren't REALLY Christian, Christans." I know some fundamentalist Christians who visit DLR. Josh is Mormon and goes to DL. On another note, what about the Islamic employee who works at DLR and is suing the place because they won't let her wear her habib? If her religion is so important to her how does she reconcile her beliefs with all of the things that Disney presents that fly in the face of its teachings?
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt >>Chernobog (the Slavic Black God) ... contradictory to Christian teachings.<< "Maybe you better watch that segment of Fantasia again to refresh your memory ..." What's your point?
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I know my husbands cousin won't let their kids watch Harry Potter because she doesn't believe in exposing them to witchcraft *snicker*, but she still goes to DL. Hmmmmmmmmm
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <"Maybe you better watch that segment of Fantasia again to refresh your memory ..." What's your point?> I'm assuming his point is that in that segment the devil is defeated by the forces of goodness and light (and arguably, religion).
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<I know my husbands cousin won't let their kids watch Harry Potter because she doesn't believe in exposing them to witchcraft *snicker*, but she still goes to DL.>> Isn't that just the silliest thing?! Disney has so many characters that use magic, and it's Harry Potter that these people have a problem with? So strange? They probably let their kids read The Chronicles of Narnia too - books that have "pagan" gods and creatures romping around with Aslan - aka Jesus. Why don't they have major problems with those stories?
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I know my husbands cousin won't let their kids watch Harry Potter because she doesn't believe in exposing them to witchcraft *snicker*, but she still goes to DL." Talk about being inconsistent. "I'm assuming his point is that in that segment the devil is defeated by the forces of goodness and light (and arguably, religion)." In that segment he returns to rest as the sun comes up. I wouldn't say that he's defeated. Maybe it's a matter of opinion. Nevertheless, the characters plays a role, along with an assortment of other fantastical evil villains, in Disney park entertainment. It's ironic to me that so many practicing Christians find in convenient to overlook this.
