Race to the White House 2012

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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    "1. Get us out of debt.

    2. Keep us strong militarily."

    Contradictory goals I'm afraid, especiall when we have to borrow 50 cents for every dollar we spend on the military.

    Funny how other countries do just fine without a monster sized military
     
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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    And more news from the front of the non-existent War on Women:

    <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/05/15/bubba-carpenter-mississippi-abortion_n_1518533.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...533.html</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    It's kind of funny how you cherry picked certain groups to your own liking.
     
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    Originally Posted By Donny

    Romney wants to stop giving government money to planned parenthood.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    <Romney wants to stop giving government money to planned parenthood.>

    Which would mean thousands of women, for whom PP is the only affordable health care provider around, would be denied preventative care like pap smears and mammograms. Which will then end up costing the taxpayers more after their illnesses are not discovered in time and they require expensive care. Not to mention how many more will die because of not discovering the problems early. It's a penny-wise/pound-foolish approach, all because a small fraction of what PP does involves abortion.
     
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    Originally Posted By TomSawyer

    And don't forget that Planned Parenthood also offers pre-natal care, which often times is the only resource poor women have in learning to remain healthy and to make good nutritional and lifestyle choices when they are pregnant.
     
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    Originally Posted By FaMulan

    To the men here defending a woman's right to preventative health care: Thank You.

    And as far as my voting this year. I have a right to have my vote counted. Whether the candidate/ballot measure I vote for wins or fails, I can say I cast my decision.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    "Romney wants to stop giving government money to planned parenthood."

    That ain't a plus, Wilbur, trust me.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    And Bonehead Boehner has promised again that he'll pull the same debt ceiling cluster---- that was such a freaking disaster last year. Universally reviled around the world for it last time, this craptastic idiot is going to do it again.

    <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2012/05/15/news/economy/boehner-debt-ceiling/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2" target="_blank">http://money.cnn.com/2012/05/1...pt=hp_t2</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    >>>"Romney wants to stop giving government money to planned parenthood."

    That ain't a plus, Wilbur, trust me.<<<

    +1
     
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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    I think the whole coercion argument from the GOP is repugnant.

    "We could help your ladies discover they have cancer earlier, but we won't as long as abortion exists in this country. So after enough of your Mothers, Wives and Daughter die of cancer, maybe you will take our abortion argument seriously!"
     
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    Originally Posted By 182

    dshyates you act as if none of this can be done any other way but by Planned Parenthood. that's just not true
     
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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    Planned Parenthood is BY FAR the largest national non-profit providing free and low cost health services to low and modest income women. They have 820 clinics across the nation and here is a breakdown of their services.

    "In 2009, Planned Parenthood provided 4,009,549 contraceptive services (35% of total), 3,955,926 sexually transmitted disease services (35% of total), 1,830,811 cancer related services (16% of total), 1,178,369 pregnancy/prenatal/midlife services (10% of total), 332,278 abortion services (3% of total), and 76,977 other services (1% of total), for a total of 11,383,900 services. The organization also said its doctors and nurses annually conduct 1 million screenings for cervical cancer and 830,000 breast exams."

    So the GOP leadership wants to "get rid" of planned parenthood with no plan what so ever to make these services available in any other way. They want to get rid of one million eight hundred thirty thousand cancer screening because 3% of PP's services are abortion related. Absolutely sickening. The GOP is vile.
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    What Donny doesn't understand is that not everyone has full medical paid for by the government like he and his family.

    Some people are poor. Republicans choose not to care about those people. End of story.
     
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    Originally Posted By TomSawyer

    "full medical paid for by the government"

    Paid for by the taxpayers, you mean.
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    Ah, yes. But Donny and the like want to cut taxes. I guess Donny should be willing to give up his taxpayer funded medical care to help decrease the national debt.
     
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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    I listened to Mitt today talking about his economic policy. He said "we are going to increase revenue by cutting taxes. Blah, blah, blah."

    OMG! These people really hurt my head. Why didn't someone fling an Angry Bird at him and say "Dude! That doesn't make any frickin' sense!"

    Please tell me that "the base" isn't so stupid that they understand that cutting your salary does NOT increase your "take home".
     
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    Originally Posted By TomSawyer

    They are morons, dshyates. They think that the government is some massive money sink in to which money goes never to be seen again. They don't realize that the money the government gets goes right back out in wages and the purchase of goods and services all across the country. The government doesn't have a savings account.
     
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    Originally Posted By Labuda

    Top 3 issues that get me out to vote:

    1. Keeping Republicans and their corporations out of office.

    2. Believing a woman should have easy access to birth control and then, should she end up facing something like her own death vs. giving birth, the choice to choose instead of being forced to carry to term.

    3. The belief that stem cell research is a VERY good thing. That's the issue that finally got me to start voting my heart instead of voting my late father's heart.
     
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    Originally Posted By Labuda

    ""Romney wants to stop giving government money to planned parenthood."

    That ain't a plus, Wilbur, trust me."

    See, now, this is further proof of how insane the Republican Party has gone... SPP, who I used to think of as hardcore Republican, is now coming across to uber-liberal me as having a moderate POV.

    And make me another +1 to his post saying that cutting planned parenthood funding is BAD

    Thanks to all the men here who're saying that they know PP needs to be funded.
     

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