Originally Posted By RoadTrip I'm not drinking any kool-aid. I just see what is there, and do not see what is not there. Have other far-right wackos said indefensible things about Obama? Absolutely. But I truly believe the campaign has tried to say away from that stuff. Palin went a bit astray for a day or two, but you saw how quickly McCain yanked her chain. All of a sudden she is talking about abortion, and makes no mention of Ayers whatsoever. Whether you think her position on abortion is right or wrong, it is at least a valid issue. I think McCain wanted to get her away from the Ayers stuff fast. McCain wants to win, but I give him credit for not being willing to turn it into a hate-fest to do it.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***I just see what is there*** No, you don't. You're either blind or lying. If you can't understand the sort of techniques that lead to this sort of thing, you are simply blind. ***But I truly believe the campaign has tried to say away from that stuff.*** Or maybe just stupid. If you "truly believe" that, you're really just stupid. And I suppose you also believe that the White House had nothing to do with a significant percentage of Americans believing Saddam Hussein was responsible for destroying the World Trade Center, too.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***I think McCain wanted to get her away from the Ayers stuff fast.*** Fast? Funny, she talked about it for several days. If only McCain knew how to work that confangled email, maybe he could've stopped her sooner! After all, it's inconceivable that he would have actually KNOWN about what she was going to talk about. She's just a maverick, after all, she set out on a tangent (of her own invention) and McCain had NOTHING to do with it. More cool aid please. ***McCain wants to win, but I give him credit for not being willing to turn it into a hate-fest to do it.*** Again, if you want to claim that those commercials were NOT the cause of the hate-fest, you are blind.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<Palin went a bit astray for a day or two, but you saw how quickly McCain yanked her chain. All of a sudden she is talking about abortion, and makes no mention of Ayers whatsoever.>> I dont want to get in the middle of the civil war you and Mr. X are having right now, but I have to say something here. If you HONESTLY think for a second McCain and Co. didnt know what Palin was going to say, you ARE drinking the cool aid dude . They don't even trust this woman to give interviews or answer reporter questions on the road 90% of the time, do you HONESTLY think they have her go out there and make her own speeches to her hearts desire? C'mon man, you know that's faaar from the truth lol. Palin is probably lucky when she spits, it's not McCains saliva that comes out at this point. She is given a set of talking points, monitored like a hawk and I'm guessing ANYTHING she wants to talk about, especially as controversial as that, is review and approved by the McCain campaign (and I'm guessing this Ayers angle was an all involved committeed decision anyway, which Palin got to agree or disagree to, but no way it was solely her idea on a lark). I'm almost certain they write everything for her to say anyway.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Wasnt finished lol. And so when she went to abortion route now, it was only because by committee, they saw the backlash, its CLEARLY not working as McCain's numbers had not moved at all in the polls and in fact are getting worse so they dropped it (for now) and why McCain gave that turnaround 'oh Obama is not a bad guy, he's a decent man' mantra this past week.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney LOL, the little racist that could with his monkey friend is back: <a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bKUovpF9LWU&feature=related" target="_blank">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=...=related</a> This time of course, instead of just video, we get audio with the guy CLEARLY racist and an idiot calling the monkey 'little Hussein'. I can't believe people like this are legally allowed to breed.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <All of a sudden she is talking about abortion, and makes no mention of Ayers whatsoever.> Maybe I'm cynical, but I agree that this is because they determined the Ayres stuff wasn't working as intended. Had they seen an uptick in the polls as a result of the Ayres stuff, I think they'd still be doing it. And obviously McCain could not possibly be unaware of what Palin is going to talk about on any given day. She was given the traditional "attack dog" role most Veep candidates get, but always (at least in modern times) very closely coordinated with the larger campaign. It's not like she just decided to talk about Ayres (and now abortion) on her own; note the coordination of her Ayres talk with the campaign ads, for instance. And yes, when your campaign starts talking about how "dangerous" a guy who "pals around with terrorists" is, you can hardly be shocked - shocked I say! - when people start seeing that person as a terrorist himself, or at least "friendly with them." It's ugly, and I'm glad it doesn't seem to have worked and they're backing off it.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Palin went a bit astray for a day or two<< What'd she do, sit down with Katie Couric again??? Sarah Palin doesn't go astray. She reads the speech given to her, no ad libbing. Although since it's essentially the same speech she's been giving since the RNC, she might have large chunks of it memorized. The "Obama pals around with terrorist" stuff wasn't "wingin' it", that was right off the prepared remarks. Probable rehearsed a time or two, to get the folksy nuances just right. Now McCain is trying to shift gears (again) after it was clear that a week of the negative attacks were backfiring. Who did his campaign get their playbook from, Wile E. Coyote? Wouldn't surprise me if he tries to paint a train tunnel behind Obama at the final debate. I'd frisk McCain for anvils, just to be sure.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Who did his campaign get their playbook from, Wile E. Coyote?*** I just spit coffee all over the monitor. Thanks a lot, K2M. That's just about the funniest thing I've read all year.
Originally Posted By Lisann22 Well, that'll make the Rep's see terrorist for sure cause Wily always gets the TNT in the end. Who knew Roadrunner was an Arab. ;>
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <I'd frisk McCain for anvils, just to be sure.> That was my favorite, right there.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Again, if McCain had at least DENOUNCED these people before this weekend, he would look a little better but no one did, period! < I don't disagree it would have been a good thing to do if he knew it was coming - if not -- you denounce it right away...again no place forit - election or anywhere else
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <***Who did his campaign get their playbook from, Wile E. Coyote?***< This is an LP Hall of Fame caliber post ! I can see the ACME boxes now--LOL !!!
