Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> when I see badly dressed guests at the park? << How true. Nothing puts it into sharper contrast than to see guys in shoulder-strap t-shirts with some clever saying on it posing for pictures with perfectly dressed and coiffured Disney princesses. Yee-haw! >> One more question... what does this has got to do with WDW in particular?? << Actually, a good question. I don't know, maybe I'm just picking up on gripers agreeing with gripers too much. Or maybe I'm just not eating enough cheese.
Originally Posted By Blackie Pueblo I stated in a similar topic that there is a difference in creative critisim and just flat out bad mouthing. I keep hearing people defending their destroying views of Disney World and saying, "I'm not going to defend it if it's wrong," or "We're just pointing out the way it should be". I understand what your saying, but take a look at the way you said it. You're not being constructive by just saying, DW's pirates sucks next to DL's version. Or DL blows DW shows out of the water! Blackie Pueblo
Originally Posted By disney pete i am guilty of been photographed in avest with all the beauties but i have things like blizzard beach,typhoon lagoon and remember the magic written on mine.
Originally Posted By trailsend <<>>I stated in a similar topic that there is a difference in creative critisim and just flat out bad mouthing. I keep hearing people defending their destroying views of Disney World and saying, "I'm not going to defend it if it's wrong," or "We're just pointing out the way it should be". I understand what your saying, but take a look at the way you said it. You're not being constructive by just saying, DW's pirates sucks next to DL's version. Or DL blows DW shows out of the water!<<>> Blackie Pueblo has made a very accurate statement. This is simply all it is. Talk about likes and dislikes all you want to. It's the I'm right and you're wrong; I know and you don't; I've done this and you haven't attitude. Give reasonable discussion if you have that much "inside info".
Originally Posted By Blackie Pueblo Thank you for backing me trailsend. That's all I've ever tried to get across and I seem to always get blasted for it. Blackie Pueblo
Originally Posted By MrToadWildRider >>I stated in a similar topic that there is a difference in creative critisim and just flat out bad mouthing. I keep hearing people defending their destroying views of Disney World and saying, "I'm not going to defend it if it's wrong," or "We're just pointing out the way it should be". I understand what your saying, but take a look at the way you said it. You're not being constructive by just saying, DW's pirates sucks next to DL's version. Or DL blows DW shows out of the water! Blackie Pueblo<< This is how I feel too (I think maybe you'll disagree BP after my next statement) I don't mind saying "I think Mr. Toad's was so much better than Pooh" but I think it's a little wrong for me to say something like "Don't waste your time on Pooh cause it's sickening. Toad was 100x better and you're a damned fool to believe otherwise" You can state your feelings without being hostile. I loved a lot of the older rides in WDW more than the ones that took their place (Horizons, JIYI, Toad, 20K, Alien Encounter -though in fairness I haven't seen Stitch yet but I've heard it is not too great and I loved AE- WoM even though I like TT too etc) although I don't think I've ever said anything worse than they haven't met my expectations or I personally wouldn't wait in the lines for the particular ride. I think those are fair statements - especially on the rating pages of the "Guides" which is where most of my comments on this subject appear. People read those to actually get an idea of the ride, whether it's worth seeing on a limited schedule, and how people view the ride. But again, even on the rating system I don't think it's right to post "THIS RIDE SUCKS!!!! DON'T EVEN TRY IT" as I've seen - try "I rated this ride a 1/4 because the ride lacked a b and c and not worth the wait" or something constructive.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>You're not being constructive by just saying, DW's pirates sucks next to DL's version. Or DL blows DW shows out of the water!<< No, we are just pointingout the obvious. And, no one needs to be constructive since we are not management nor do we have to means to effect change, especially now that 99% of guests complains at City Hall are thrown out or dismissed by the CMs who should be able to effect the changes necesary to improve WDW as a whole..
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney "No, we are just pointingout the obvious. And, no one needs to be constructive since we are not management nor do we have to means to effect change, especially now that 99% of guests complains at City Hall are thrown out or dismissed by the CMs who should be able to effect the changes necesary to improve WDW as a whole.." Makes sense to me. I don't know why people can't just ignore opinions (that are not stated as facts) they disagree with instead of debating peoples' right to say something like 'Pooh sucks, don't waste your time.' If that's someone's opinion, that's it. Let it go. Or post a counter opinion and move on. You shouldn't need to have your newsgroups strained of all intelligent debate because some inane opinion might hurt your feelings. So here's my opinion. WDW used to be great and now it's merely very good overall and worse in some areas (like the Studios).
Originally Posted By MrToadWildRider >>No, we are just pointingout the obvious<< I don't think that PotC at WDW "sucks" compared to DL's... It may not be as long with it missing the majority of the skeltons and what not but it's still a very good ride. Isn't the ending different too? I haven't been to DL in a long time but I for some reason recall liking the end of WDW's better.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN The end of the MK's POTC is indeed unique to it. Guards in bondage and gagged in a treasure filled room. How much avant guard can you get?? But, one scene does not make the ride better for me.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> I don't know why people can't just ignore opinions (that are not stated as facts) they disagree with instead of debating peoples' right to say something like 'Pooh sucks, don't waste your time.' If that's someone's opinion, that's it. Let it go. Or post a counter opinion and move on. << Because we live in a civil society that depends on social interaction to avoid conflict. You're saying that it's my job to "just ignore" someone who's diminished me by telling me I can't judge for myself that what I just enjoyed, I really didn't? I think not. In our society it's your job to state your opinions in such a way that does not insult. In a similar way -- aggressive motorists that offer drivering "tips" by way of "informing" someone else that they should be driving better (in their opinion) serve to RAISE tension, and promote conflict. I have noticed that people tend to escalate to more aggressive language and volume when it becomes apparent that their "informative statements" are being ignored.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy I just re-read my own post, and I don't know where all that came from. I haven't visited "civics" since high school.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: It doesn't matter, dear. I just want to see what you look like in a mask--and also what you look like inside my little cottage in Morva--while my sisters are away on a long, LONG vacation...
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> I just want to see what you look like in a mask << Hey -- remember Johnny Depp wearing his mask in "Don Juan DeMarco?" Well Johnny and I are both the same gender at least.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I think not. In our society it's your job to state your opinions in such a way that does not insult< This part I for one absolutely agree with -- we don't need to turn this board into WE. However I also agree differing opinions are good, but there is no good reason for us all not to be civil to one another about it....
Originally Posted By TDLFAN ssWEDguy.. weren't you supposed to be at MK tonight? I looked all over for you and your tripod and didn't see you at all.
Originally Posted By MrToadWildRider >>The end of the MK's POTC is indeed unique to it. Guards in bondage and gagged in a treasure filled room. How much avant guard can you get?? But, one scene does not make the ride better for me.<< I never said it was better I just pointing out that it does not "Suck" compared to DL. It's shorter time in the boat but there's more walk through theme with the queue (something DL HM fans always point out when people say WDW's is better for being 'longer') and there's a different scene in it. I love BOTH rides and I don't think it's "obvious" that WDW "sucks" that's all. I think both DL and WDW have highs and lows. Some points DLs wins out hands down while others I'd say WDW, but they're both still amazing places.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy TDLFAN -- I posted a response for you over on your photo report thread. I looked for you too.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: So, now that we know how you look while wearing a mask, how do you look in tights, ssWEDguy, duckling?
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORGOCH: This here's sure ONE parade I'd like ta rain all over!! Heck!! I'd like ta just THUNDER STORM all over it!!!
