Originally Posted By TomSawyer The point is using reducing our dependency on foreign oil, as far as I'm concerned.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy I agree on reducing our dependency on foreign oil. That's why we need to drill off shore in Florida and anywhere else thre is oil. In fact, we need to drill everywhere there is oil in this nation. Oh, nuclear power would be nice also. I live about 20 miles from a nuclear power plant that the libs had shut down here in Oregon. Anyone know the name of this place? Winner gets next the winner of Monday night Football for free!
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Trojan Nuclear Power Plant. (Thanks, Google.) Reducing our dependence has to do with conserving, too. It makes even less sense in the days of $3 a gallon gas to be driving a car only slightly smaller than the QE2. What's the point of a hybrid SUV that gets about 7 miles to the gallon better mileage? Those seven miles per gallon become 70 miles or more per tank. Over a year it adds up. In thousands of vehicles, that savings really starts to add up. I hope the American manufacturers get in the game with fuel efficient cars & trucks a little more now that the price of gas has it on everyon'e mind. I do agree it's time to take a fresh look at nuclear energy and not make it out-of-the-question. Been lots of advancements over the past 25 years, worth considering.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Trojan Nuclear Power Plant. (Thanks, Google.)>> Correct. Trojan is now a park with walking trails going around little lakes. Yes, I do wonder if the fish have 3 eyes. France seems to do well with nuclear power. If THEY can do it so can we. Speaking of France.... I was working a trade show in Vegas last week for my company and this old guy from FRANCE shows up in my booth talking trash about the US, Abe Lincoln, George Washington, America in general. It was almost as if I was being set up, but the guy was for real. He told me he was a professor at UNLV. My wife was there running interference on the guy trying to send me off to get water... it was pretty funny. Of course I had to hit him with a " france... we surrender ! " barb.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Hybrids also significantly cut down on ground level ozone since when they are in use during city driving they are running on battery power. Seattle has hybrid buses for this reason. In Seattle's case they use the hybrid engine for use going through a three mile tunnel.
Originally Posted By peeaanuut All I have to say is..Hydrogen Fuel Cell. I hope it becomes a widespread reality soon.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>live about 20 miles from a nuclear power plant that the libs had shut down here in Oregon.<< The accidental radioactive steam release in 1992 and the cost of replacing the four steam generators had a lot more to do with why it was shut down 15 years early than anything the liberals did, Beau.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>France seems to do well with nuclear power. If THEY can do it so can we.<< They've got the high tax rates to support government subsidies for large projects like this.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Frances dumps their nuclear waste at sea. Nuclear power is nice, but you have to do something with all that radioactive waste.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Did you know that the radioactive levels of the waste coming out of Germany's nuclear power plants is so high they have to change the police sifts on their waste transport trains every 6 hours.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>Nuclear power is nice, but you have to do something with all that radioactive waste. << Beau would be happy to store a dozen barrels at his house.
Originally Posted By cmpaley Somehow, I get the vibe that Beau is a classic NIMBY. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer A friend of mine ran a business in Kansas City doing piece work for Hallmark. For years he complained about people on welfare that never got jobs. His plant was located in building near 18th & Vine, the heart of Kansas City's African American neighborhood and near many public housing facilities. I visited him one day and noticed that most of his 60 or 70 employees were hispanic. I mentioned that I thought that there'd be more people from the neighborhood working for him, and he said that he had a lot of applications from people in the neighborhood but that most of them were on welfare and he didn't hire them because he figured they'd be lazy. He never did see the irony.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Hold on... what is a NIMBY? Tom, we can send the radioactive waste to Canada.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Then they'll just send us more Celine Dion albums. I don't think I can handle that, Beau.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy I liked her Titanic Song.. the first 1000 times. How do YOU know so much about the Trojan Power plant? You are kind of spoiling my fun by pointing out that it might not be evil liberals that shut this great place down.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan NIMBY = Not In My BackYard. Someone who would say "build more nuclear power plants, but not HERE, where I live."
Originally Posted By Beaumandy NIMBY = Not In My BackYard. Ahhhh... No way. Like I said. Trojan Nuclear Power plant is no more than 15 or 20 miles from my new house. I would be thrilled if they fired that baby back up if it meant clean, cheap, safe power. I think it's safe. The Kennedys are NIMBYs. Just try and build a wind farm on Martha's Vineyard!!
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>The Kennedys are NIMBYs. Just try and build a wind farm on Martha's Vineyard!!<< <a href="http://www.mvtimes.com/News/09082005/weekly_stories/energy.html" target="_blank">http://www.mvtimes.com/News/09 082005/weekly_stories/energy.html</a> >>At the West Tisbury selectmen's meeting last week, Kate Warner of the Vineyard Energy Project (VEP) presented practical suggestions that would make the community less dependent on increasingly expensive off-Island sources of energy, and less at the mercy of a failure in the already-stressed electric cables that bring power to the Island.<< >>Wind power is the greatest natural energy resource the Vineyard has. CT Donovan found that there is virtually no place on the Island that is not a good candidate for wind generation of electricity. According to the report, Martha's Vineyard should include the use of wind power in any serious attempt to develop locally-produced renewable energy. Over the next ten years, the study proposes installing ten 10-KW small-scale (70- to 100-foot) wind turbines, like the one South Mountain Company has. While these would provide only one-tenth on one percent of the Island's energy needs, they would help residents and visitors become familiar with current wind technologies. The next step would be a farm initiative to install ten 100-KW wind turbines. This step would help agriculture on the Island and serve as a demonstration of slightly taller towers (about 150 feet to the hub). A long-term goal would be to install ten 1.5-MW turbines, which could provide 22 percent of the Island's electricity. The report suggests that these turbines be "onshore, in an area or areas agreed to Island-wide." As turbines this big are 230 feet high at the hub, locally acceptable locations might be difficult to find.<<
