Originally Posted By Kevin Flynn WHY would Trump run for president? Glen Beck is gone from Fox, (thank God) and that was less likely than Trump getting the nod from the GOP. It "ain't" going to happen. He has absolutely NOTHING to gain from it even IF he ran, and then IF he were elected.
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Originally Posted By fkurucz "Lots of people file for bankruptcy Labuda. Life isn't about falling down. It's about getting back up." He has a bad habit of repetitive falls.
Originally Posted By fkurucz In a way it would be fitting if the GOP were to nominate Trump for President, as he's the poster boy for predatory, crony capitalism.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "What policies, Donny? All I've heard him say is that the current GOP long term budget plan is a bad idea and that Obama wasn't born in the US. Do you have a link to anything that shows his policies?" I was going to say the same thing...
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "Would Obama poop in his little shorts if he had to debate Trump?" No...why would, or should he? What, because Trump makes people feel uncomfortable in his manipulated "board room" firings on his TV show? Yeah, right...He's a pompous wind-bag, and I doubt the president would be afraid to debate him.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <But you cannot discount his success. > You know what? Yes I can. Trump is not a self-made man. His Daddy was a multi-millionaire who gave little Donny his huge head start. Donny took his millions and made more millions. But then he lost even more millions, and declared bankruptcy (the first time). Then he got bailed out, and made more millions. Then he lost more millions. Made more, lost more. His track record is mixed AT BEST. What he does have is a genius for self-promotion and putting his name on everything, which makes him seem more important (and competent) than he is. He made himself a celebrity, you have to give him that. That ensured that even when he failed (often taking down plenty of "little people" along with the failure), he was able to get bankruptcy protection, keep his name in the news, and get something of a head start on his next venture, just leveraging his celebrity. That's a talent of a sort, but it doesn't translate to the Presidency, of course. Then there's his personal life, which actually makes Gingrich's look like a model of propriety. If you lived in NY in the 80's you read about pretty much every bimbette between (and sometimes during) Ivana and/or Marla, and it wasn't pretty. But that itself was a way of keeping his name in the news and increasing the value of his "brand" in a "I'm a Master of the Universe and can get any woman I want any time I want" kind of way. He's no Einstein, but you just know he's too smart to believe the birther crap. There are really only two possibilities here: 1). He's really NOT that smart, or 2). He's lying through his teeth pretending he does believe it. So... not very bright, or a liar. Neither a very promising characteristic for a President. But unless his outsized ego gets the better of him after all, there's no way he's running. I'm pretty sure this is all just another way of increasing the Trump brand value. Some people are lapping it up, and Trump himself is probably laughing at them at this very minute.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <We are all equally short of perfect on morals and ethics. > Well, no. We are all short of perfect on morals and ethics, but we're not all EQUALLY short. I'm pretty sure Ted Bundy and Charles Manson fell a little shorter than, say, your common garden-variety shoplifter. Shoplifting is not a good thing. But it's nuts not to differentiate between different moral or ethical violations. And Trump's trump (ahem) most people's, if for no other reason that with his money came power over other people's lives. So his moral and ethical transgressions had real and negative consequences on plenty of people - both those he knew (and wronged) personally and those he never met and couldn't give two shakes about.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>"I'm a Master of the Universe and can get any woman I want any time I want"<< Now updated as "Duh, winning!"
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Originally Posted By Donny Let me say that I do believe that President Obama was born on Hawaii but when Trump speaks about international trade, getting rid of Obama Care & Nafta,stopping the export of jobs to India,taking care of ourselves first and getting a hold on OPEC these are just a few reason why Trump will make a great President.
Originally Posted By Labuda "It's about getting back up." I'd say it's about getting back up and learning so that you don't commit the same mistakes and fall again.
Originally Posted By Labuda "You can't argue his policies so you have to tear down the man" He'd have to HAVE policies in order for us to tear him down, Donny. Right now, we're just focusing on him because that's all we have. He has failed to offer any new content or information, much less policies.
Originally Posted By Donny Honestly Labuda you elected a man who is a great speaker but has very little idea what to do as an elected official.
Originally Posted By Labuda Honestly, Donny, you have no way to prove that statement. In fact, just last night your President and your Senate Majority Leader worked with that Speaker of the House guy and avoided a government shutdown. That's the action of a President, not a man who does not know how to govern.
Originally Posted By Donny Well Obama Care has morphed into something no one is trumpeting,We are still in Iraq,no real transparency and his no lobbyist ban is a joke.He just was not ready for the job.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 He's hardly been perfect, but he's been a hell of a lot better than Bush. And most of so-called "Obama care" hasn't even kicked in yet, although the portions that have (kids being allowed to stay on their parents' insurance policies longer, for example) are actually quite popular. <when Trump speaks about international trade, getting rid of Obama Care & Nafta,stopping the export of jobs to India,taking care of ourselves first and getting a hold on OPEC these are just a few reason why Trump will make a great President. > Donny, wake up. With the exception of "Obamacare," pols of both parties have been mouthing the same platitudes about "getting a hold on OPEC," getting a better deal on international trade agreements, and stopping offshoring for a long time now. Saying you favor these things and actually getting them done are two DECIDEDLY different things. A President can't just wave his hand and stop offshoring. And, in fact, free-market Republicans like Trump claims to be normally FAVOR offshoring and defend the right of US businesses to find the cheapest labor available.
Originally Posted By Longhorn12 >actually quite popular< I'm enjoying the hell out of that one. >morphed into something no one is trumpeting< Other than my father, and many other doctors who are lobbying for it as we speak. >We are still in Iraq< You elected Bush. >great speaker but has very little idea what to do as an elected official< It's really hard to work on anything when you try to extend your hand to the other party and they spit on it.
Originally Posted By fkurucz "getting rid of Obama Care" Funny how just about every nation that's kicking our butt (economically) has some form of Socialized Healthcare.
