Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Yes a really good cook can..but the vast majority of people are NOT that good at cooking. Also unless you have access to quite a grocery I want to see who has all the items needed in house to make some of the above items I listed..as the cost alone to buy supplies that are not regularly used is astronomical>> Any farmers market worth its salt has anything you need to make anything. At a reasonable price, too.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Listen...I'm as much of a fan of the good old Biergarten as anyone, but it's far from the best German restaurant I've ever had. It's good, no doubt, but close to the best? Heck no. And their Spaetzles is some of the worst I've ever had, and the German foreign exchange student who lived with my friends had to agree with me ---- I can name 2 better here-- Bavarian Lodge and Mader's in Milwaukee-- other than that Biergarten is equally as good if not better.. and maybe bad batch of spaetzles ? I have never had bad ones there- always individual not mushy - not with bread crumbs on them like some use. The BEST ones were made by my gandmother...and were quite the long process but worth it...again my point is that these places are far from average. When peopole start talking about Olive Garden in the same breath- really it's sad. again, I did not say the BEST, I said very good which it is. In the BEST category I would put Cali Grill / Jiko / Blue Zoo -- to call something the BEST anywhere is very hard to do- there is likely always somewhere better- but if you draw an average line- all the sit downs I have mentioned so far are well above the average line, and most have a couple of star entrees that are very very good. Some of the BEST restaurants I know are Mom & Pop ethnic places so it's not about $$, however many BEST restaurants carry a price tag that would make the $23 Hamburger of Chef's de France seem like a bargain.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> So I am completely baffled how this thread digressed into arguing restaurant preference. << Because that's what we do here at LP.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Any farmers market worth its salt has anything you need to make anything. At a reasonable price, too. ----------------- show me the farmers market that has all you need for many of the dishes at Boma -- I'd like to visit that one. the only Farmer's Markets here have basic vegetables and fruits..period. And sorry, they are not cheap...so maybe some of us need to move so somewhere a lot less populated
Originally Posted By MPierce >> just a few examples- so I am not quite sure how this is common food to you-- you must eat very well and live in a world class dining city also... or else I just don't understand how you see this food as ordinary - it just isn't << I have to say VBDAD that out of all the meals we had at WDW on our last vacation, my wife, and I both agreed that there was only meal that we said was good enough to compare to the places we normally frequent right here in Gooberville USA.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Yes a really good cook can..but the vast majority of people are NOT that good at cooking. Also unless you have access to quite a grocery I want to see who has all the items needed in house to make some of the above items I listed..as the cost alone to buy supplies that are not regularly used is astronomical<<< We'll make our "special" meals on the weekends,, and honestly, when we go shopping, we can usually find all our ingredients for reasonable prices.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<and maybe bad batch of spaetzles ?>> Nope. I eat there almost 2-3 times a year. I'm never impressed with them. That being said, the food is good there, but far from spectacular. <<show me the farmers market that has all you need for many of the dishes at Boma -- I'd like to visit that one.>> Reading Terminal Market in Philadelphia. Used to work there myself. <<the only Farmer's Markets here have basic vegetables and fruits..period. And sorry, they are not cheap...so maybe some of us need to move so somewhere a lot less populated>> Where do you live? Cuz the stuff at the Terminal is a hell of a lot cheaper than your normal super market, and better quality.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> show me the farmers market that has all you need for many of the dishes at Boma -- I'd like to visit that one. the only Farmer's Markets here have basic vegetables and fruits..period. And sorry, they are not cheap...so maybe some of us need to move so somewhere a lot less populated << I go to a liquor store here in Houston, seriously. Spec's Liquor. <a href="http://web.specsonline.com/storeindex.htm" target="_blank">http://web.specsonline.com/sto...ndex.htm</a>
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Reading Terminal Market in Philadelphia. Used to work there myself.<<< Really? Win! LOVED that place when we were in Philly.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Iovine Brother's Produce My sister's best friend's dad owns it. I worked there during weekends in high school. Place is freaking awesome, and there's just sooo much stuff there. It's like the freaking Cave of Wonders.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom << In the BEST category I would put Cali Grill / Jiko / Blue Zoo -->> All of which you have to make resevations for well in advance of your meal if you plan on enjoying any of them. And, Jiko has a dress code. Heck, I was staying at AKL, wearing wranglers, $300 cowboy boots, $150 Montana silver belt buckle, $75 pony hide and silver belt, $700 Skully black leather and Ostrich jacket, $200 Stetson and they still would let my party in WITH resevations ( no blue jeans). I guess the typcial person in Florida just hasn't yet come to the conclusion that jeans can be formal when worn appropriately.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Another problem I have is trying to enjoy a meal at a "fine dining establishments" on property seated next to families with screaming children. Like the lunch I had at Les Chefs de France. Gee, overpriced food, tiled floors, concrete walls and ceiling AND screaming children, what a combination. If I'm going to have to tolerate screaming children while I am eating, I would just assume do table service. At least then I'm not spending between $25-$45 a meal. I have no problem with people who prefer to eat on Disney property. It just seems that there are more and more reasons why I prefer to eat elsewhere.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> All of which you have to make resevations for well in advance of your meal if you plan on enjoying any of them. And, Jiko has a dress code. Heck, I was staying at AKL, wearing wranglers, $300 cowboy boots, $150 Montana silver belt buckle, $75 pony hide and silver belt, $700 Skully black leather and Ostrich jacket, $200 Stetson and they still would let my party in WITH resevations ( no blue jeans). I guess the typcial person in Florida just hasn't yet come to the conclusion that jeans can be formal when worn appropriately. << Hell you can dine at Quattro at the Four Seasons dressed like that here in Houston!
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom My standard for German food is Hofbrauhaus. I dined at their Newport, KY location just a couple months ago. And there is nothing in the Biergarden that can come close to matching Hofbrauhaus's menu. Still, on every trip to WDW I typically dine at Biergarden just because it's something I can not get back at home. I don't eat at Olive Garden, but I hear there bread sticks are good. I have had Italian food on property and I my opinon it's not as good as Macaroni Grill. Mind you I grew up in a densly Italian neighborhood, so I'm use to incredible Italian food. On a recent trip to Chicago I returned to Rosebud and the Fusilli Carbonara was not as good as it had been in the past. If seems even other well respected, "fine dining establishements" are cutting back.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <Hell you can dine at Quattro at the Four Seasons dressed like that here in Houston!> We ended up eating dinner off property that night. And when we returned Disney Security wouldn't let us back in the parking lot till we showed them our room key as AKL doesn't have adequate parking to accomidate guests who are actually staying at that resort and people dining at Boma. At the time AKL had the most limited parking of any resort on Disney property. I'm not sure about now.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> We ended up eating dinner off property that night. And when we returned Disney Security wouldn't let us back in the parking lot till we showed them our room key as AKL doesn't have adequate parking to accomidate guests who are actually staying at that resort and people dining at Boma. At the time AKL had the most limited parking of any resort on Disney property. I'm not sure about now. << Did they say welcome home after you had to show them your room key?
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom No, they did not... which is not a big deal. I guess the moral here is that "formal" subjective in different people's eyes.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I have to say VBDAD that out of all the meals we had at WDW on our last vacation, my wife, and I both agreed that there was only meal that we said was good enough to compare to the places we normally frequent right here in Gooberville USA. -------------- interested as to what you had ?
