Originally Posted By vbdad55 We'll make our "special" meals on the weekends,, and honestly, when we go shopping, we can usually find all our ingredients for reasonable prices ------------------ that would make sense- however when we go to WDW it is for 8-10 days- not just a weekdn - so you have to eat ALL of the days. I don't find the time to cook as much any more so I am jealous - I wish I had it but I don't. As for the cost- I can seriously tell you I think ALL of the grocery stores here are overpriced - not quite as bad as Goodings in the crossing - but not that far off.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I go to a liquor store here in Houston, seriously. Spec's Liquor ----------- no disrespect meant- but having been to Houston ( and even Dallas for that matter - liquor stores are a different level and hold a different place in the social stratus than any here..
Originally Posted By vbdad55 but far from spectacular ---------------- again, above average on a whole- with some entrees and sides very good..had some carved pork loin last time that was spectacular - the only disappoinment for me was the apple strudel -as the German bakeries here make a killer strudel and the one there is average
Originally Posted By vbdad55 but far from spectacular ---------------- again, above average on a whole- with some entrees and sides very good..had some carved pork loin last time that was spectacular - the only disappoinment for me was the apple strudel -as the German bakeries here make a killer strudel and the one there is average
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Where do you live? Cuz the stuff at the Terminal is a hell of a lot cheaper than your normal super market, and better quality. -------------- Western suburbs of Chicago - and I can tell you there is no Farmer's Market that level in our out of the city itself ( I grew up in the city)- to demonstrate Rick Bayless bought a few empty lots and started his own 'mini farm' to grow organiic versions of all he needs because they just are not readily available- and when you do find the things you need- hang onto your wallet
Originally Posted By vbdad55 On a recent trip to Chicago I returned to Rosebud and the Fusilli Carbonara was not as good as it had been in the past. If seems even other well respected, "fine dining establishements" are cutting back. --------------- there is a second Rosebud in my suburb - Naperville- and I can tell you they are having money issues ( they changed the decor away from Italian actually here for 6 months- then went back-- p.s. I never thought Rosebud was what it was cracked up to be-- there are far far better Italian restaurants in the Italian enclaves down in Bridgeport as well as off Taylr street near UIC campus.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Rosebud was Frank Sinatra's favorite Italian restaurant in Chicago.
Originally Posted By -em So a ponderance after reading the last few (dozen) posts... Has the actual QUALITY of table service restaurants changed or has it been each persons interpretation of what defines quality changed? note quality. Not variety/price/locations just quality. Your version of mediocre may be my good and someone else's amazing yet we all could be eating the same dish the same restaurant same day. who is then right? I think it was said very well posts back about the demographics of diners at table services due in part to DDP but I don't think its soley to blame. At what point to you cater your menu to "public demand" or when do you say "this is what we offer take it or leave it" (Prime example is the Cheeseburger at Chefs de France)
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<Nikki, no one here cares where you eat. Why the heck do you care if others think your dining choices are absurd?>> Hey newbie, knock off the attitude. I'm just asking a question in response to Spirit's decrying the "ignorant masses" who don't see the "Walmarting" of dining at WDW.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Rosebud was Frank Sinatra's favorite Italian restaurant in Chicago. --- knew that - it ain't the same-- Same with the Berghoff German restaurant - when the original owners passed away they shut for a while- then they reopened ( daughter runs) as 17 @ the Berghoff and it is crapola. The original one of the best ever. Ol Blue Eyes favorite rib joint here was a bar called Twin Anchors - down near the lakefront- still outstanding- if ever here it is a must do restaurant <a href="http://www.twinanchorsribs.com/" target="_blank">http://www.twinanchorsribs.com/</a> web site playing Frank music
Originally Posted By dshyates There was a time when WDW had the best dining in the Orlando metro area. But in recent years there has been an explosion of great restaurants off-prop that I think WDW guests would love. But then again, you need a car, which Magical Express has put a kibosh on. But for those wanting a high end meal superior to any available on-prop aside from Cali Grill and V$S'a. There is The Venetian Room at Caribe Royal Resort, <a href="http://www.thecaribeorlando.com/dining/venetian-room/" target="_blank">http://www.thecaribeorlando.co...an-room/</a> and Norman's at The Ritz-Carlton <a href="http://www.normans.com/home.php" target="_blank">http://www.normans.com/home.php</a> There are also tons of other great places like Ocean Prime <a href="http://www.oceanprimeorlando.com/" target="_blank">http://www.oceanprimeorlando.com/</a> Oceanaire Seafood Room <a href="http://www.theoceanaire.com/" target="_blank">http://www.theoceanaire.com/</a> Capital Grille <a href="http://www.thecapitalgrille.com/Locations/Orlando/Main.asp" target="_blank">http://www.thecapitalgrille.co...Main.asp</a> Emeril's Orlando at Universal CityWalk <a href="http://www.emerils.com/restaurant/6/Emerils-Orlando/" target="_blank">http://www.emerils.com/restaur...Orlando/</a> Emeril's Tchoup Chop at The Royal Pacific <a href="http://www.emerils.com/restaurant/7/Emerils-Tchoup-Chop/" target="_blank">http://www.emerils.com/restaur...up-Chop/</a> The Palm at Hard Rock Hotel <a href="http://www.thepalm.com/Orlando" target="_blank">http://www.thepalm.com/Orlando</a> BiCE at Portofino Bay Resort. <a href="http://www.orlando.bicegroup.com/" target="_blank">http://www.orlando.bicegroup.com/</a> For those that claim that dining is a big part of thier Orlando vacation experience these are all options that should be explored. And you don't need to make ressies 180 days out. Unfortunately they don't take DDP. Oh well, I guess no one will try them as Pixie Dust isn't included.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I think it was said very well posts back about the demographics of diners at table services due in part to DDP but I don't think its soley to blame. At what point to you cater your menu to "public demand" or when do you say "this is what we offer take it or leave it" (Prime example is the Cheeseburger at Chefs de France)<<<< I the k we can blame that on DDP guest's standards, can't we? DDP homogenized Disney Dining.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 There is The Venetian Room at Caribe Royal Resort, ------------------ been here- my daughters volleyball club stays here for AAU's -- agree it is good quality
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Hey newbie, knock off the attitude. << What an ironic comment coming from you.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey ^^^^^I have made a conscious effort not to get an attitude since I have returned to LP. You have made the same mistakes as I, Leo.
Originally Posted By Disneymom443 Leo, I was trying to figure out who thought you were a newbie? I must have missed that one.
Originally Posted By danyoung >At what point to you cater your menu to "public demand" or when do you say "this is what we offer take it or leave it"< That's an interesting point. With the changing of the menus, in theory Disney is more or less adjusting things to their demographic of their diners. And who's to blame them? The sad thing is that the menus are mere shadows of what they used to be. Perhaps the current clientele is happy about that, but I for one am not. But I hasten to say that I still almost always find something on the menu that works for me, and rarely have a bad meal at a Disney restaurant.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> You have made the same mistakes as I, Leo. << What mistakes are those, Nikki? Fetishizing, photographing, and using every single one of Disney's pixie-dust toilet seats? It's okay, that's not a mistake--that's a virtue.
Originally Posted By Christi22222 "Hey newbie, knock off the attitude. I'm just asking a question in response to Spirit's decrying the "ignorant masses" who don't see the "Walmarting" of dining at WDW." And I was just answering. Pot meet kettle. Didn't mean to stir your pot.
Originally Posted By danyoung Christi, I had to go back to your post 226 to see what the fuss was about. You made some good points, but you did come on awfully direct. Speaking as one who just got (temporarily?) kicked off of another board for being direct, I'm trying to soften up my rough edges a bit.
