Originally Posted By Labuda Yeah, that's the way my Daddy did it. That's just one of the many issues I had with Catholicism. trust me, I'm much better off as an agnostic with strong tendencies to believe in God, but not so much the whole Jesus thing. I mean, Jesus sounds like a great guy, but literally the song of God? Immaculate conception? yeah, not so much in my personal set of beliefs.
Originally Posted By Labuda Oh, I also don't believe Jesus looked anything like THIS: <a href="http://s4.hubimg.com/u/542911_f496.jpg" target="_blank">http://s4.hubimg.com/u/542911_f496.jpg</a> Oh, and that pic is also on the LDS website here: <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?locale=0&vgnextoid=5a7f3c7ff44f2010VgnVCM1000001f5e340aRCRD" target="_blank">http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/in...340aRCRD</a>
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Originally Posted By mawnck >>Oh, I also don't believe Jesus looked anything like THIS:<< That's his Olan Mills photo. It doesn't really capture the real Him.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 The point, of course, is that it is our system of separation of church and state that saves our throats, not the religion itself.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Ugh. Now WE can. Dang iPhone.<< Mine does that all the time, too. Since when is wd a word? (And c'mon, does it really think I'm trying to spell "duck" that often?)
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 I must have missed the whole "militant evangelical group" section of the Bible during my many years of Sunday school and confirmation classes and church going. My pastor was obviously remiss in his teaching duties.
Originally Posted By WDW1982 I grew up in Amarillo till I left at 39yo. Amarillo is mostly Baptist and the funny thing was when I would go out on Saturday night to the bars. I would see the same holy rollers there. That I would see going to church in their fancy suits and the big SUV. People of religions are such hippocrits.
Originally Posted By snappyfun "The point, of course, is that it is our system of separation of church and state that saves our throats, not the religion itself." Sorry just not true, what saves our throats is that the religion that made what we know as the Western Word is Christianity. If Christianity was like some other religions the government could not save us from it since the vast majority of the USA has been and still is Christian, and the vast majority could just take over the country and make it a theocracy. Sometimes you need to give credit where credit is due, as hard as it may be to do that.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "The point, of course, is that it is our system of separation of church and state that saves our throats, not the religion itself." <Sorry just not true, what saves our throats is that the religion that made what we know as the Western Word is Christianity. If Christianity was like some other religions the government could not save us from it since the vast majority of the USA has been and still is Christian, and the vast majority could just take over the country and make it a theocracy. Sometimes you need to give credit where credit is due, as hard as it may be to do that.> You're wrong, plain and simple. As my earlier example showed, Christianity has itself shown itself at various times in history to be intolerant and willing to slit the throats of unbelievers. Hell, Catholics and Protestants fought for a couple of centuries, slitting each other's throats over differing brands of what is supposed to be at bottom the same religion. Now yes, that was centuries ago, but what changed was the Enlightenment, and those enlightenment ideals being enshrined first in our Constitution, and then in other western countries. The point in your middle paragraph is wrong too. The vast majority of the US may be Christian, but that doesn't mean the vast majority could make it a theocracy. A). The constitution prevents that and to make that happen you'd have to change the constitution, and b). the vast majority of Christians in this country (myself included) don't WANT a theocracy. Some might. But most of us recognize how valuable the separation of church and state is... to both the church(es) AND the state.
Originally Posted By Labuda "the vast majority could just take over the country and make it a theocracy. " Does this idea scare the crap out of anyone else? ref: Taliban-run countries, for one. *shudder*
Originally Posted By EdisYoda "the vast majority could just take over the country and make it a theocracy. " The vast majority of which Christian religion: Catholic? Baptist? Presbyterian? Evangelical? etc, etc, etc?
Originally Posted By Mr X I'd put my money on evangelical (doesn't that pretty much cover baptist as well?), and they'll have the help of their political lackeys the Mormons. Catholics will be largely supportive (certainly from a financial perspective) but not necessarily active.
Originally Posted By EdisYoda Perhaps, until it comes time to name a national religion, then the fun begins.
