Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Yeah, you're probably right. Well, he was right to support Sen McCain.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I disagree.> No, I'm pretty sure K2M was correct when he said RT didn't vote for Sen McCain.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <Yeah, you're probably right. Well, he was right to support Sen McCain.>> I did support McCain. Frankly I'm not at all sure I was wrong considering the recent crash of the economy. Why did I not stay with McCain? Because the campaign got VERY ugly. I will not vote for someone who uses fear and prejudice to get votes. Kind of the sad thing is that McCain never did. In fact he disputed people who claimed Obama was a Muslim and a terrorist. Who knows... it may have cost him the election. But he did the right thing. Unfortunately Palin did the wrong thing. She was all out nasty. Which was a shame, because she was also damned hot. ;-) Since then? Who knows? In ways I'm glad I voted for Obama. In ways I wish McCain would have won. I truly feel that Obama has the best plan for the LONG TERM. I'm just afraid we will never get to the long term because of his actions in the short term. I think Obama is a very intelligent man and I believe in his vision for America. But if I could wish a man into office right now, it would be McCain. Obama has gone too far too fast. It has not been good for the economy. As Beau would say... I'm a confused moderate. :-(
Originally Posted By avro_imagineer ^^ All I can say is, Pilot is by Honda. I mean, things like this is hard to call. Either way McCain or Obama I think both candidates were much stronger then the candidates in the previous 2 elections. Although McCain had the Dubya and Palin legacies holding him back... Palin is not hot, she's like some old aunt.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Frankly I'm not at all sure I was wrong considering the recent crash of the economy.*** Um, recent? Where've YOU been? Anyway, I thought the crashing economy was a) not that bad, and b) caused by us sourpusses being so negative all the time. Now it's Obama's fault? Wow.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster RoadTrip: "But don't mind me. Go bash some more Mormons. I see they are still a hot topic on WE. I guess I don’t get the point, but that’s OK. They are what they are and nothing posted here is going to change them. They are a very small minority group in the United States... are they really worth the hate?" YES! Mormons are the most vocal group out ther trying to prevent equal rights for another "very small minority group". They are vicious and they are relentless and they play the victim when challenged. As someone who is directly effected by their malicious efforts, I plead for everyone to oppose their hypocritical crusade.
Originally Posted By ecdc No, you can't do that, Churro. What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander. Mormons have their free speech, but apparently the line stops with them. They can say and do whatever you want, but if anyone brings them up on these threads to criticize them and their beliefs, then we're all just a bunch of hypocritical anti-Mormon bashers. See how that works?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip ^^^ Bash their position on Proposition 8 all you want. I'll even join you on that. But to bash them as a people, as a religion, is just as vile as what they do to you. Two wrongs do not make a right. My mother taught me that before I even started school. Too bad so many here have never learned that. Thank God I know a lot of great people who are gay in my real life. You do them a great disservice here because of your narrow-minded extremism. Yes, the "other side” wallows in narrow-minded extremism also. But as I said before; two wrongs do not make a right. :-(
Originally Posted By mele Complaining about people on a message board is NOT the same thing as actively campaigning to take away someone's equal rights. Not even close.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Bash their position on Proposition 8 all you want. I'll even join you on that. But to bash them as a people, as a religion, is just as vile as what they do to you. Two wrongs do not make a right. My mother taught me that before I even started school. Too bad so many here have never learned that." No, absolutely, Mormonisn, as a religion, in its totality, quite crudely, sucks.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Thank God I know a lot of great people who are gay in my real life. You do them a great disservice here because of your narrow-minded extremism." Gay in yout real life? WTF does that even mean?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Gay in yout real life? Gay in your real life KING OF THE FRICKIN' TYPOS
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Well, as it relates to that plane crash, I still can't see how crowing about being right using hindsight is something to well, crow about.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Bash their position on Proposition 8 all you want. I'll even join you on that. But to bash them as a people, as a religion, is just as vile as what they do to you.<< You couldn't be more wrong. You cannot divorce a religion's beliefs and people from their actions. As a people, they've done tremendous harm. As a religion, they've done a tremendous harm. These things are intertwined, and political correctness towards religion won't change that. >>Thank God I know a lot of great people who are gay in my real life. You do them a great disservice here because of your narrow-minded extremism.<< Again, you're wrong. This is exactly what people say anytime someone makes waves against the status quo. Decent people in the 50s and 60s inadvertently supported bigotry and racism because they insisted people like Dr. King were pushing too hard and making too much of a stink. His outrage and his movement did more harm than good, they insisted. But just like you, they were dead wrong. The marchers who protest in front of Mormon temples have it right. Good for them. They'll annoy people who prefer a more polite way of demanding their equal rights and treatment in the short-term, but they'll bring their cause to the forefront and they'll get change much more quicker than if they came begging on their hands and knees to the very disgusting people who stripped them of those rights.
