Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan From Reuters: >>"Trying to scare seniors and turning these things into political weapons, what that ends up doing is inflicting political paralysis," Ryan said at conference that drew together some of the main players in the U.S. deficit debate. "That means nothing gets done, and that means we go farther down the path of debt."<< Uh huh. This is the same bunch that lead us into two wars and kept the costs of those wars off teh books. They used fear constantly as a way of pushing for what they want. Seniors -- and people who hope to live long enough to become seniors -- SHOULD be scared of the Ryan scheme. It is an unworkable screw-job that will make life miserable for any senior citizen not in the upper income brackets. But they've wanted to get rid of social security and Medicare and any other program that actually makes life a little better for the average Joe for decades, and they're going for it. The loss in New York is but the first of many for them ahead. The average American has zero interest in going back to the days of the robber barons, even if these Ayn Rand obsessed lunatics do.
Originally Posted By BPSJP >>Seniors -- and people who hope to live long enough to become seniors -- SHOULD be scared of the Ryan scheme. It is an unworkable screw-job that will make life miserable for any senior citizen not in the upper income brackets.<< You have gotten the whole DNC propaganda line down! Are you a DNC paid lobbyist? Thats not a put down, you really are very good at what you do.
Originally Posted By BPSJP >> Uh huh. This is the same bunch that lead us into two wars and kept the costs of those wars off teh books. They used fear constantly as a way of pushing for what they want.<< I agree now we are in a 3rd war, and Obama has expanded our role in Afganistan. We need to get our people home and stop with this trying to make the world like us. When will as ever get a real leader who cares more about us then their ego?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>To give you a sense of this Republican slice of New York: John McCain defeated President Obama in this district, 52 percent to 46 percent, in 2008. And despite Andrew Cuomo's 63-33 statewide trouncing of Carl Paladino in the governor's race last year, Paladino won here with more than 60 percent of the vote. Former Rep. Chris Lee won the district with 73 percent of the vote in 2010, just a couple of months before his infamous shirtless photo emerged, which led to his resignation and Tuesday's special election.<< <a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2011/05/democrat-wins-upset-victory-in-new-york-house-race.html" target="_blank">http://www.pbs.org/newshour/ru...ace.html</a> Ouch!
Originally Posted By planodisney Lets see, I've been reading here and so far seen elections blamed on "wet-backs", Obama said to have Muslim brothers, conservatives called nutjobs and sociopaths. I truly despise this section anymore.
Originally Posted By BPSJP >> Obama said to have Muslim brothers, conservatives called nutjobs and sociopaths.<< I truly despise this section anymore.<< Yes as a newer person I can see why you feel that way, it can be ugly. Let me help you with a few though. Obama has said Muslims are his brothers, and that's good. We all need to be everyones brothers and sisters. As far as "wet backs" if someone used that word they should be ashamed of themselves. Please stay here, this section needs people who are moderate.
Originally Posted By Longhorn12 >elections blamed on "wet-backs", Obama said to have Muslim brothers< From one person >conservatives called nutjobs and sociopaths.< Because they don't call liberals that, right? >I truly despise this section anymore.< Then don't visit it...?
Originally Posted By Longhorn12 >Obama has said Muslims are his brothers, and that's good. We all need to be everyones brothers and sisters.< Because that was totally the point of your post. Not that Obama was a not so secretive jew hating muslim. >As far as "wet backs" if someone used that word they should be ashamed of themselves.< You might as well have used it.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>I'd imagine a lot of Republicans are going to look at these results and conclude that they have to do anything they have to in order to keep the Tea Party happy.<< By doing that they will drive away even more people like me.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>conservatives called nutjobs<< I took care to separate conservatives from nutjobs. There's nothing conservative about the Ryan scheme. But it is nutty. I wish some real conservatives would take control of the GOP instead of the pandering fools running the show right now. Ronald Reagan wouldn't be welcome in it today. Mitt Romney has to pretend he's some other guy named Mitt Romney.
Originally Posted By BPSJP >>Not that Obama was a not so secretive jew hating muslim.<< You think Obama is a Muslim? I have to disagree, with you on that. I don't think he is a Muslim at all, more of an agnostic I would think. His dad was a Muslim and he grew for some years as a child in the Worlds largest Muslim country, that is a fact. But I think he was influenced by radicals like his preacher who he watched for 20 years. But I hope that helps you, I do not think Obama is a Muslim, just a confused guy who is doing the best he can with the influences that he has had.
Originally Posted By BPSJP >> >conservatives called nutjobs and sociopaths.< Because they don't call liberals that, right?<< See you missed his point, he was saying stop the name calling, on both sides. Let's try to treat each other with respect I bet we all have alot more in common then we all think.
Originally Posted By Longhorn12 >You think Obama is a Muslim?< /slowclap Yay! You cut out the other part of my post where I clearly stated that is the point you were trying to get across.
Originally Posted By BPSJP >>Yay! You cut out the other part of my post where I clearly stated that is the point you were trying to get across.<< See, sorry I misunderstood you, and if I did I'm sorry. Some times jokes, or sarcasm can fall in the wrong place. Glad to hear we agree on this.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan <a href="http://www.ehow.com/how_2090771_ignore-message-board-trolls.html" target="_blank">http://www.ehow.com/how_209077...lls.html</a>
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/25/senate-votes-house-budget-plan/" target="_blank">http://www.foxnews.com/politic...et-plan/</a> >>The Senate has rejected a controversial House budget plan for turning Medicare into a voucher-like program for future beneficiaries. Five Republicans joined every Democrat in killing the measure, which calls for transforming Medicare into a program in which future beneficiaries -- people now 54 years old and younger -- would be given a subsidy to purchase health insurance rather than have the government directly pay hospital and doctor bills.<<
