Originally Posted By Dabob2 <But the majority aren't committing wrongs. And yes that is what you are implying> No it isn't. It's what you're inferring from him. Big difference. <Remember in Baltimore the police are the problem> Why does this simple concept seem to elude you: street crime in Baltimore is a problem, and police who kill unarmed people, often for minor infractions, is ALSO a problem. It's a false dichotomy to even present them as if one excused the other.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 And littering is more prevalent than oil spills. What's your freaking point? Also, no one defends street crime. And if the perpetrators are caught, they are tried and usually do time. Sometimes even when a cop kills someone who wasn't threatening him AND IT'S ON VIDEO, they aren't even tried (as on Staten Island). THIS is what the protests are about. No one protests when a cop shoots someone in a shootout when they're trying to avoid arrest. People protest cops shooting unarmed people, or otherwise killing them (as in Baltimore). And especially if there's a long history and pattern of abuse and racially-based harassment where the town itself operates as a giant shakedown operation with the cops as enforcers (as in Ferguson).
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Ferguson was a systematic problem. But that's not how all police departments operate.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Let me continue but the media is portraying all police departments as if they are Ferguson.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Ferguson was a systematic problem. But that's not how all police departments operate.> And not all tens of thousands of police departments across the country are being protested, now are they? Only a tiny fraction. <Let me continue but the media is portraying all police departments as if they are Ferguson.> No. That's not true.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Really how come every headline is white officer shoots black man? Yet if it's the opposite it's not in the story?
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Yet if it's the opposite it's not in the story?<< Because when white cops talk about their reasons for killing black men, their language is radically different than when white cops talk about why they shot white men. When they explain why they shot a white man, they usually say something like "I feared that he was reaching for a gun," or similar language. When they talk about why they killed a black man, they often use language like that of Darren Wilson after he shot Michael Brown: "When he stopped, he turned, looked at me, made like a grunting noise and had the most intense, aggressive face I've ever seen on a person." Wilson and other officers have a tendency to talk about blacks as if they were animals.
Originally Posted By ecdc You are engaging in the availability heuristic. You are oversimplifying based on the most available, recent information. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Availability_heuristic">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...euristic</a> Whether fair or not (I'd argue both), people have long been suspicious of and skeptical of police officers. I'm re-reading "The Long Goodbye," published in 1953. You ought to take a look at how Chandler writes about police officers. Writers and later movies and TV have long depicted the corruption rampant in some police departments, especially Los Angeles. Black Americans have long been skeptical and even scared of police, and with very good reason, as anyone who's bothered to read a history book knows. The only thing that's changed is more white people are taking notice and realizing that maybe, just maybe, black people aren't full of crap and there really is a problem. This image you paint of benign servants who have long been respected until recently is yet another figment of your imagination.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>So all white officers are bad, got it.<< Your ability to respond to or invent stuff no one said is remarkable. It takes a willful ignorance on an astounding level.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<Let me continue but the media is portraying all police departments as if they are Ferguson.>> <<So all white officers are bad, got it.>> You are steeped in delusion. You are only seeing what you want to see. Reality is not part of your everyday existence. You are acting like a very paranoid privileged white guy who's terrified of people not like you taking over. In your reality, the cops are the only thing standing between privileged white men like you and the rest of the unwashed masses whom you fear. Hating on the cops is bad in your universe for ANY reason because the cops are the privileged white guy's bodyguards. So anything, ANYTHING that threatens to take down that personal safety buffer is evil. E-V-I-L!! "We gotta defend our police officers! Otherwise, those scary effn n*gg&rs and illegal wetbacks will steal and rob us blind! Maybe even kill us!!" ^^ That is how you come across, DAR. Even though you're not using that exact language, that is how your arguments sound.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Did post 211 not say when a white cop shoots a black suspect it's because they think they're animals?
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Skinner you're right I have my own personal police force because I'm afraid of other races. Yup you sure have it figured out. Believe it or not I was once stopped by the police while out for a jog. It was about 15 years ago. Two squad cars came told me to get on the ground. There were reports of a man who had assaulted a woman near the park I was jogging in. The color shorts and shirt the suspect was wearing matched what I had on. I waited for a bit while everything was sorted out and was let go. I didn't say a word. I didn't give them any reason to use force. Now that incident could have soured me on the police, but I know they were just doing their job.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 You seem to have this image of me living in the suburbs in some gated community and I belong to a whites only country club I've lived in the city all my life. My neighborhood is filled with hard working people and families. Cops, teachers, firepersons office workers and factory workers. And from all walks of life, black, Hispanic white, straight, gay. So the white male privilege ASSumption is false
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Did post 211 not say when a white cop shoots a black suspect it's because they think they're animals?<< 1) No, it did not, but I wouldn't expect your reading comprehension to pick that up. 2) That's not even what you originally represented it as saying. You represented it as saying "all white cops are bad," because you are either too stupid to know the difference or you are too fundamentally dishonest to accurately represent what other people have said.
