Riots & Brutality - what's the solution?

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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    Here's what happens when you treat every interaction with the cops as if the citizen is a criminal.

    <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/05/24/watch_a_police_officer_taser_pepper_spray_a_man_who_is_suffering_a_massive.html">http://www.slate.com/blogs/the...ive.html</a>

    Guy was suffering a massive stroke as his car went down the road and hit some other cars. So naturally they tazed him, pepper sprayed him, and screamed obscenities at him. He's also been charged with reckless driving.

    But hey, maybe if he didn't want to get in trouble with the law he shouldn't have hauled off and had a massive stroke! It's really black and white.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    "I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I can't breathe."

    "Yeah, you're good. STOP IT!"

    Jesus H. Christ. How can any decent, rational human being watch something like that and still defend American cops in general?

    This is some sick, gestapo-level shit going on right now, and in video after video it all looks the same.
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    1 or 2 instances is not a reason reason to to say all cops are bad
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    Police officer in New Orleans fshot dead in his car.

    <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/05/24/new-orleans-housing-officer-shot-killed/27882971/">http://www.usatoday.com/story/...7882971/</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    Aw man, here's another person that should've just known better than to cross the law. An eighth grader arrested for throwing Skittles (it's always the damned Skittles with these punks, isn't it?) and then held in jail for six days.

    <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/8th-grader-arrested-threatened-beatings-and-held-6-days-jail-throwing-skittles">http://www.alternet.org/civil-...skittles</a>

    >>They also found that black students make up 80% of those arrested, despite the fact that black students make up only 40% of the school district. The SPLC has reportedly called on the Department of Justice “to intervene with the school’s unwarranted arrests of overwhelmingly minority students.”<<
     
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    Originally Posted By skinnerbox

    SPLC has been dealing with the minority student "school to prison pipeline" for years.

    Unfortunately, I don't see this being stopped anytime soon.
     
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    Originally Posted By skinnerbox

    Let's face it.

    Too many citizens elect politicians and sheriffs and judges who are just as bigoted as they are, so that minorities whom they don't want to live near or work near or go to school near are treated as badly as possible with the hope that incarceration or worse takes these "undesirables" out of their neighborhoods forever.

    Seriously. Our country is still very racist. White folk, for the most part, are terrified of minorities getting the upper hand in population, thereby becoming the largest voting demographic block, which would ultimately give them control of the government, if they were capable of voting as easily as the whites, that is.

    The only solution to this problem is for the white idiots to stop listening to the conservative racist talking points and start focusing their disgust on the billionaire class that fuels the racism in an attempt to take the looking glass off of them and their theft of our bought-and-paid-for democracy.
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    9 killed in Baltmore over the weekend, 35 this month.

    <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/26/us/baltimore-deadliest-month-violence-since-1999/index.html">http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/26/...dex.html</a>

    Oh wait it's racist to point that out.
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    Nah, it's only racist when you attribute violence to black pathology. You are welcome to point out violence all you like, we'll just keep right on correcting you about why it happens and the best way to fix it.
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    Yeah by letting the police do their jobs
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    No, that's not it. Particularly in Baltimore, where it's being revealed that what happened to Freddie Gray was not unique. A "rough ride" was something police did to arrested people periodically, often just because they felt like it. Only the fact that Gray died brought it to the national spotlight.

    What happened to Gray didn't happen in a vacuum. It was the proverbial last straw.

    Want to know why Baltimore blew up?

    <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-baltimore-blew-up-20150526">http://www.rollingstone.com/po...20150526</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    >>Yeah by letting the police do their jobs<<

    The U.S. has the highest incarceration rate of any country in the world. Higher than China, Russia, or Saudi Arabia. How's that working out for you?

    A better solution would be for people like you to figure out that racist policies that cause poverty is the cause, and that aggressive reverse policies and education would be the solution, not continuing racist policies like locking black people up at a disproportionate rate.
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    So a 8 year old riding her bike gets hit by a stray bullet because one thug had a beef with another, were does that fall under a racist policy?
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    That's like asking if a drunk driver kills someone what it has to do with alcohol.
     
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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    Not even comparable.
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    I'd explain the analogy, but you'd just keep doing your strawman/whack-a-mole/anecdotal fallacy thing.
     
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    Originally Posted By skinnerbox

    <<So a 8 year old riding her bike gets hit by a stray bullet because one thug...>

    There it is, boys and girls. He used the word, "thug." The new word for "n!gg&r."

    Black men are now "thugs."

    Stray bullets being shot by "thugs."

    All "thugs" are the cause of all societal ills.


    Nope. This isn't racism at all.

    It's OK to hate on "thugs."

    Because they're, you know, THUGS!!












    And BTW... Trayvon Martin was an effn T-H-U-G!

    Got that? GOOD!!


    /sarcastic rant
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    There are white thugs too, but they generally prefer using the term "redneck" when describing themselves. ;-)
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    LOL RT, also true.

    (And because I have to be "that guy" that turns everything into a serious discussion about race...)

    While people talk about "black on black" crime in the inner cities, we pretty much ignore the crime that goes on in poor, white, rural America. It's easy to get scared of gang members or be appalled at the way people live in the inner city, but what about when you drive across country and see rows of trailer parks filled with meth addicts? There's plenty of violence and crime among white America too.

    The difference is: white politicians and white policies created the ghetto as we know it today.
     

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