Originally Posted By monorailblue The route will have to turn north before the theater, as turning after the theater would take it up the parade route. I just liked the commend about the crystal blue waters. I wonder if the crepuscular rays are going to be a permanent feature, or are also merely artistic license?
Originally Posted By Bellella Too good to be true? I guess we should just hope for the best. I do hope they're not lying to us. Mark Twain, Columbia, come back!!!! Fantasmic, come back and stay unchanged, except for a certain sea witch who needs to become more dimensional.......
Originally Posted By dagobert D&M has high res pictures of the concept art. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://disneyandmore.blogspot.fr/2016/01/new-rendering-shows-how-will-look.html">http://disneyandmore.blogspot....ook.html</a>
Originally Posted By trekkeruss "Where/what is the trestle?" CC, the trestle is the supporting structure for the railroad tracks over the water. I agree the concept looks nice. It reminds me of the Mine Train through Natures Wonderland. If an homage of sorts is the intention, I'd like to see them further the design with an inclusion of a tunnel, complete with Rainbow Caverns.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <If an homage of sorts is the intention, I'd like to see them further the design with an inclusion of a tunnel, complete with Rainbow Caverns.> Now that would be cool
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "CC, the trestle is the supporting structure for the railroad tracks over the water." Thanks! "Now that would be cool" Cool enough to make you visit, Jim?
Originally Posted By hbquikcomjamesl "All the watercraft" . . . I don't suppose that means they'll bring back the Keelboats? ;-P
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA "CC, the trestle is the supporting structure for the railroad tracks over the water." Thanks! "Now that would be cool" Cool enough to make you visit, Jim?> CC - maybe. can you decrease the crowd level by 40%?
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance If I had it my way, only cool kids like us would be allowed in.
Originally Posted By Bellella <complete with Rainbow Caverns.> Oh, I wish!!!! From what I've heard, Rainbow Caverns was amazing, and one big reason I wish I was alive before Thunder Mountain. I would love to see it brought back!!!! Don't mention the Calico Mine Ride at Knott's. It doesn't exactly have the right atmosphere, the AA's are really creepy, and the whole ride reeks of sulphur fumes, or whatever makes the colored puffs of smoke.
Originally Posted By phruby This picture shows the concept art integrated into Frontierland. As you can see the train would go though the hunchback arena. I would assume there would be a tunnel. This route takes about 2 minutes off in both sides of the Mark Twain's route. What no one considers is the train gauge can't make tight left and right turns. Besides, it would cost too much to do that anyway. This way makes it very smooth. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://discuss.micechat.com/filedata/fetch?id=8430108&d=1452547472&type=full">http://discuss.micechat.com/fi...ype=full</a> The rockwork will probably look like Tokyo Disneyland's version. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://land.allears.net/blogs/jackspence/Train%20History%2022.jpg">http://land.allears.net/blogs/...2022.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Although it looks better than I feared, I'm not in love with the new design. As phruby pointed out, it's similar to Tokyo's railroad, which feels kind of awkward IMO. It also doesn't make much sense to have a large number of waterfalls along the side of a river like that; that's just no how rivers flow That said, I'm excited to see that many of the props and scenes along the shore will be returning. I was worried that they might take this as an opportunity to remove the Indian village, but it looks like they'll be building a new one along the new shores of the river. I assume this will also help the new shoreline blend in better, since any trees in that area would be significantly smaller than the old-growth trees on the existing banks >>Since it appears the island will be truncated just past Fort Wilderness (as had been more or less assumed by many), it makes you wonder where Fantasmic! paraphernalia are going to go . . . .<< I'm pretty sure all of Fantasmic!'s stuff is in the fort and further south, so it shouldn't be impacted in that manner. Plus, when the show first opened, the fort remained open to guests during the day, so they really don't need all that space to themselves. It's great to have as a backstage prep area, but it doesn't need to be dedicated space all day And from what I've heard, they may take this as an opportunity to reconfigure some parts of Fantasmic!'s staging. Obviously they'll need to adapt their operations to the shorter river (and new backstage dock, wherever that winds up), but there may be some other changes to the show as well
Originally Posted By monorailblue What I was referring to are the rivercraft paraphernalia--the barges, crocodile, etc. The river spur where they were stored looks like it may be going away. I guess we'll know soon enough.
Originally Posted By hbquikcomjamesl Re: my prior comment about bringing back the Keelboats, the downside of that is that they might keel over. Somebody could get keeled.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA As a former Keel Boat pilot at WDW, I can tell you they are a bit tricky to navigate.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>The river spur where they were stored looks like it may be going away. I guess we'll know soon enough.<< My guess is that it will have to be relocated/rebuilt as part of this project. It looks like there’s some ambiguous space behind the Indian village in the concept art, so I would guess that it will be hidden behind the rockwork there
Originally Posted By believe Looks pretty good. Even looks like the "hidden" part of the river is still there. Wonder if the SWL is split up with the RR and how they will transition to it. Maybe it'll be like the Toontown transition.
