Originally Posted By perlster just LOL from you-know-where: "Bottom line, on individual stories MiceChat gets it right far more often than not. And in its overall take on Disney's corporate culture, it's very accurate."
Originally Posted By Bellella Not only is one river on the point of being wrecked forever, there is also another one we should be worried about. www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/201511/4809/ If all they're doing is putting in a new loading system, why the f do they have to have it closed for most of this year? Are they fixing up the AAs? Or doing something completely unthinkable?
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I know they won't, but it would be great if Disney temporarily reduced the cost of hopper tickets since they are going to have so many attractions closed for refurbishment.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I know they won't, but it would be great if Disney temporarily reduced the cost of hopper tickets since they are going to have so many attractions closed for refurbishment.>> Yea... attractions that very few ever rode. It is always fun watching DL folks over-react to absolutely everything. Now WDW folks might have a legitimate complaint with 75% of the Studios being shut down, but even there I don't really care. I look forward to what is coming without spending all my time pissing and moaning about the present.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<So you're willing to pay the extra cost as an "Anticipation Fee"?>> Yes. I guess that is the primary difference between DL folks and WDW folks. WDW folks are used to it. Both the Studios and Animal Kingdom opened as half-day parks at best but still charged the same admission as the MK and Epcot. And no one cared that much, because if they didn't fill the entire day at the Studios they would just hop to another park.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance That article was from 11-1-15. Plus it states right in the article what they are doing, "When the Jungle Cruise returns it will have doors fitted onto the boats, and they will auto-dock" Also, newer information shows that it's not going down for much of 2016, but be back sometimes after April 3rd.
Originally Posted By believe >>>>>Both the Studios and Animal Kingdom opened as half-day parks at best but still charged the same admission as the MK and Epcot.<<<< Actually no. Over Christmas Break 2015, For a one day pass, MK was $105 adult/$99 child, the other 3 parks were $99/$91. Park hopper was $155/$149.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Actually no. Over Christmas Break 2015, For a one day pass, MK was $105 adult/$99 child, the other 3 parks were $99/$91. Park hopper was $155/$149.>> This is only the SECOND year when there has been a higher charge for the MK. When both the Studios and Animal Kingdom opened the prices were the same, and continued that way for years afterward.
Originally Posted By monorailblue Auto docking and doors? That sounds a bit odd. Auto-piloting with recordings? Is that next? Sigh.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I think DL is smart enough to know that the live spiel is the reason people go on the JC these days to begin with.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss "Yea... attractions that very few ever rode." The river boats, railroad, and JC are attractions that hardly anyone rides?! "I guess that is the primary difference between DL folks and WDW folks. WDW folks are used to it." WDW folks don't care about the show? "Both the Studios and Animal Kingdom opened as half-day parks at best but still charged the same admission as the MK and Epcot." I'd be surprised if WDW sells many one-day, one-park tickets. Even when they do, I'm sure the majority of those get used at the MK and Epcot, and not at the Studios or DAK.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss "Yea... attractions that very few ever rode." The river boats, railroad, and JC are attractions that hardly anyone rides?! "I guess that is the primary difference between DL folks and WDW folks. WDW folks are used to it." WDW folks don't care about the show? "Both the Studios and Animal Kingdom opened as half-day parks at best but still charged the same admission as the MK and Epcot." I'd be surprised if WDW sells many one-day, one-park tickets. Even when they do, I'm sure the majority of those get used at the MK and Epcot, and not at the Studios or DAK.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>And no one cared that much, because if they didn't fill the entire day at the Studios they would just hop to another park.<< In addition to park hopping, there is so much more to WDW than the parks that a half-day park simply left time for other experiences. When MGM opened, it coincided with the opening of Typhoon Lagoon and Pleasure Island. Disney knew that none of those were full-day experiences, but hoped that guests could combine some of them into a single day to fill up their itinerary Obviously the non-park offerings have changed through the years, but I contend that they're what really sets WDW apart from DLR. At DLR, folks rush into cram in as many rides as possible in a day or two and then go home; at WDW, people stroll through the parks and take a much more holistic view to their overall vacations As it stands now, the Studios park is pretty terrible; even Epcot is struggling at the moment, with both Maelstrom/Frozen and Soarin' closed for refurbishment (I'm glad I won't be there when spring break crowds hit!) and a very stale overall attraction line-up. DAK seems to be on a positive trajectory, but in general, people visit the WDW parks for more than just the attractions. Throughout the 4 WDW parks, there are about the same number of attractions as DLR's 2 parks, yet the average guest is able to spend significantly more time taking it all in
Originally Posted By RoadTrip JC, the DL RR and the Mark Twain all have good ridership. The Keel Boats and Explorer Canoes have very little. And I wasn't really talking about the DL RR and JC, but responding to the lament that all the boat rides on the Rivers of America would be closing. The only one that seemed to me to have significant ridership was the Twain. And even there, I doubt daily ridership comes anywhere near the "top" DL attractions.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 The keel boats haven't actually operated in a long time. The Columbia operates on busy days; it was packed when I rode it on a busy,beautiful December day.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<The keel boats haven't actually operated in a long time. The Columbia operates on busy days; it was packed when I rode it on a busy,beautiful December day.>> Of course WDW doesn't have an equivalent to the Columbia. The only boats operating on the river are the Liberty Belle and the raft to Tom Sawyer Island. Keel boats and canoes stopped operating long ago.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros And WDW's second riverboat stopped operating years before those. But that doesn't mean that they haven't lost capacity through the years. Much like the sad state of the Studios park, a lot of WDW's problems have come from slowly chipping away at things until there's barely anything left. I don't think it will happen in DL (at least, not as part of this project), but it's a great tale of caution regardless
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance See Bellella, the Jungle Cruise will be back sometime in April.... <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://disneygeek.com/disneyland/pictures/large/2016/01/29/20/2">http://disneygeek.com/disneyla.../29/20/2</a>
