Originally Posted By vbdad55 that is not the question now was it ? don't spin --you admit you were as wrong as could be posting the $13 / hour - $17 hour nonsense and then I will answer your question
Originally Posted By vbdad55 btw-- you'd probably be surprised by my answer to your question--- but I am not letting you off the hook for the misinformnation first
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Wal Mart pays MORE than minimum wage. If you work there for a short amount of time you get steady raises. WalMart is hardly the devil as so many try to say. If you are at WalMart for a year you are going to be making twice minimum wage in most cases.
Originally Posted By fkurucz I remember growing up in SoCal in the 1960's. Most of the folks in out neighborhood had very ordinary jobs. Some worked at the grocery store, the post office, were school teachers, worked in factories, etc. My dad was one of the few with a "skilled job". He was a tool and die maker. Yet all these people owned their own homes, had decent cars and only needed 1 income to get by. Today most people with similar jobs are poor (even tool and die makers aren't doing as well as in the past). This is what has changed. Today you need specialized skills to have a middle class lifestyle. Being a hard working joe lunchpail is a ticket to poverty these days.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Wal Mart pays MORE than minimum wage. If you work there for a short amount of time you get steady raises.<< Sure, like 5-10 cents an hour after 3 months. Big whoop. And it isn't much more than California minimum wage either.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>btw-- you'd probably be surprised by my answer to your question--- but I am not letting you off the hook for the misinformnation first<< Forget it, he will never admit that he was wrong. Kind of like Fonzie in Happy Days, he can't finish saying the phrase "I was wrong".
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Wal Mart pays MORE than minimum wage. If you work there for a short amount of time you get steady raises. WalMart is hardly the devil as so many try to say. If you are at WalMart for a year you are going to be making twice minimum wage in most cases.< Walmart has a 200%+ turnover rate of employees -- so many are not there that long. you just can't bring yourself to admit the $13 - $17 / hour is a falsehood statement made only for effect can you ? And NO they do not double peoples salaries in one year -- get real. Can people make careers at WalMart - sure, but most can not. Now if you are talking Costco, a completely different salary and employee structure, but Wal Mart is going to pass along increases each year if you are a solid employee...but double your salary - not on this planet --
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Now since you will NEVER admit you were being a blowhard on the WalMart salary issue I will answer your other question.... NO, I do not agree that a municipality should dictate the salaries of companies that operate within their limits. I agree with Mayor Daley ( a democrat --gasp ! btw) - who overrode the city council with his veto power so that Wal Mart does not have to pay the $10/hr + $3hr benefits to start. Wal Mart will never build here otherise -nor will Target and Home Depot also put new stores on hold and having done motivational work in the areas that need a job- any job...as much as it pisses me off how WalMart abuses their workers -- some do actually survive there, so no I do not think a city should be able to control this... stunned huh ? I do think that people need to be aware of the abuses even more than they are and speak with their shopping habits to shop where they can get good deals and they treat people like human beings...the ONLY was to upset the mafia from bentonville is in the pocketbook
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Busted? Your the one who pushed the Wal Mart is evil myth yet the facts prove that Wal Mart pays more than minimum wage along with very good medical benefits. If you work at Wal Mart you can easily make 17 bucks an hour. If you work at Wal Mart for any amount of time you get raises. It's not tough to become a manager at Wal Mart and make enough money to support a family. You make it sound like Wal Mart is screwing all it's employees. Why?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Busted? Your the one who pushed the Wal Mart is evil myth yet the facts prove that Wal Mart pays more than minimum wage along with very good medical benefits. < BULL_- now answer this question and this question only -- did you not say that WalMart pays $13 - $17/hur and it is totally false. Answer this without any spin -- BUSTED! And I said WalMart mistreats their employees - in many many documented court case losses they have made people work OT without paying them OT. Their benefits are considered sub standard by EVERYONE in the HR field which is also well documented in lawsuits. -- so tell me anywhere - and I mean ANYWHERE I have ever said they did not pay minimum wage or slightly more than minimum wage . Give me one quote from any thread. BUSTED AGAIN ! this is not blowhard talk radio my friend - this is the facts and only the facts. you were wrong on the salaries by a long shot, and you are wrong on saying I ever said they din't pay minimum wage or even $1 more -- get your facts straight. Now fess up on the 13-17 hour bull--- c'mon it won't hurt....
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <You make it sound like Wal Mart is screwing all it's employees. Why? < Oh I don't know, maybe because they have a 'rap sheet' of court losses where they just paid the fine for green card violations, overtime abuses and various other mistreatments of their employees. I think that is a good enough reason.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <If you are at WalMart for a year you are going to be making twice minimum wage in most cases.< you must get awful dizzy backpeddling the bike that fast.. $13 - $17 hour -- answer the question, don't change the subject or move the goalposts...no one is buying it
Originally Posted By vbdad55 So $17 / hour at WalMart to start huh ? Well let's see that's $35360 / year -- better than 45 states pay their teachers to start -- that would be interesting, if it were remotely true
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Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Please note that all the statements in post 114 have an equal chance of happening, which is to say not at all.
