Originally Posted By monorailblue Dug--that Matterhorn link is still hilarious all these months later. Thank you so much.
Originally Posted By avromark It has something to do with the time flux capacitor that was buried in a time capsule under the sub lagoon. When they drained the lagoon, low and behold the matterhorn disappeared. Or something like that.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney "Rocket Rods is one of the worst theme park attractions I've ever been on. To me, Rocket Rods is/was worse than 'Superstar Limo' I kid you not." We agree. At least SuperStar Limo told a story, or tried. A lame one, but still. RR was just a waste of money and real estate. It's that moron Tony Baxter's fault too ... grrrgrr!
Originally Posted By oc_dean Hopefully .. Lassetter will put him back into a position of power .. and pump some new life into Tomorrowland. After Nemo, new fleet of Monorails .. and even with Star Tours II all in consideration (including Peoplemover II, and Rocket Jets II) .... something grand needs to take place of Innoventions. That is the next ripe location for a huge E Ticket.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney ^^I agree. I also have faith in Lasseter ... and Ouimet and even Iger (thus far).
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster I kind of liked the Rocket Rods. You got the same tour of TL as the Peoplemover just in a lot less time. They weren't very thrilling but they were a couple long rehabs away from becoming a really cool attraction. I especially liked the energy they gave the land. I guess the single rider line made me a lot less bitter than the people who had to wait such a long time for a mediocre attraction.
Originally Posted By Dznygrl <<I think the dumbest things done recently at Disneyland was moving the Rocket Jets to the entrance of Tomorrowland.>> Amen to that!! Whoever decided to do that completely missed the point of their entire existance. Lame!
Originally Posted By indysoarin19 <<It's that moron Tony Baxter's fault too ... grrrgrr!>> Isn't Baxter responsible for Splash Mountain, though? Or am I getting my Imagineers confused? In response to oc_dean, I would love to see Mission: Space replace Innoventions, but it is too big to shoehorn in there, I'm afraid. Plus, Star Tours comparisons would probably come up from tourists. I can already here the complaints: "I thought you said this had Star Wars characters in it! Now all I have is a massive headache and an upset stomach!" "Mom, this ride was lame compared to that Mission ride next to Space Mountain." Guess I'll keep on dreamin' or plan another Disney World trip.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>In response to oc_dean, I would love to see Mission: Space replace Innoventions,<< Well .. no offense here .. but Mission:Space is not for everyone. It's a thrill ride that is limited to certain people. An all-encompassing Family Attraction is what the Innoventions space needs.
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> Whoever decided to do that completely missed the point of their entire existance. << They missed the point of the hub too. As bad as the orbitor is for TL promenade, it's not doing any favors for the hub either. It intrudes into the central plaza in a vulgar way. I suppose it's nice that the peoplemover may be coming back, and good for them if they finally come up with a new star tours film. But when it falls into line with the return of the subs, space mountain and the new monorails, it seems that the entire focus of the imagineers is redoing what's already been done. Every six months or so I feel like I have to remind people that it's been over eleven years since DL got a new "e-ticket", for lack of a better term. I'm as patient as the next guy, but I believe we're way overdue for a really for real NEW ride. Who knows, maybe for the 55th anniversary, but only if they start crackin' right now.
Originally Posted By oc_dean I think the 55th can be a BIG campaign! Think about it: that number: 55 Both the year the park opened, and the number of years in existance.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Well they've milked as much as they possibly can out of fireworks and a parade, perhaps they'll have to finally build a new attraction for the big celebration.
Originally Posted By imagineer1985 "Rocket Rods is one of the worst theme park attractions I've ever been on." I thought the ride was fun and exciting. I was their on Opening day and waited in a line that was down mainstreet. I thought wait was extremely long but thought the ride was exciting with all of the turns and the relatively high speeds. I loved sitting in the front. The only bad part about the ride was the capacity. It had the capacity of a FL darkride and had a line wrapped through another ride.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Keep in mind the Rocket Rods attraction that opened in May 1998 was barely 1/5th of what was planned. Remember .... that GM and Disney were to team up together with a large-scale pavilion. Much like the Futureworld pavilions we see at EPCOT. Each room in the Circle-Vision complex was a different experience. It was going to be some 30-45 minute experience in it's entirety. Many of us knew about this massive attraction being planned in the mid 90s - the first of it's kind for Disneyland. (Very similar in concept to the multi-stage STAR TREK EXPERIENCE in Las Vegas). When GM pulled out of the deal just as the attraction was to get underway - OUT went the elaborate pavilion .. and in came Imagineering's only solution with no budget from Pressler to complete the ride: Two old looping films .. old attraction pieces painted in flourescent blue .... and the main ride without the banked turns needed to make those bends, and no decent special effect planned along the tunnels. On May 22nd ... what was unvieled to the public was the barebones version of a ride that was doomed to failure from the beginning. A motto that will live forever in the memory of the Pressler/Eisner era. IF it went through as planned ... I think I could have lived with the fact they were combining two attractions into one. But since what was ultimately only 1/5th of one ride out of two ...... All I can say now is ........ Glad "Buzz" is in there now ... and a Peoplemover (hopefully) planned for the near future.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Back on ......... "the tunnel" (I just think of Gollum when I say that line ... With big changes going on up in Burbank and Glendale ...... don't you all think they should wait a bit .. and rethink all of Tomorrowland here? There's so much to do, despite Buzz, updated Space Mountain, and the subs. With: - Star Tours needed update - replacement for the aging HISTA - replacement for Innoventions (as if anyone really cares about this place!) - Peoplemover track - Astro Orbitor placement situation instead of all this piece-meal restoration to the "1967" infrastructure ..... I'd prefer it if Lassetter said ..... "Hey guys, now that I'm here, lets look at some REAL plans to update DL's Tomorrowland!!!"
Originally Posted By oc_dean Interesting to note: When Wells & Eisner arrived on the scene in 1984, Tomorrowland's mid 80s make-over (the major renovation plan before the "TL:2055" idea came along years later) was SHELVED until the new boys in town got settled into their new jobs.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Also, the Starcade should go. It isn't futuristic or interesting to most people. If I wanted to go to an arcade, I would go to one, not to Disneyland. There are plenty of things that could be done in there. I think a nice TL sit down resturant would be nice, but unlikely with RRPP across the way, but that could easily be turned back into an attraction. With half of the Starcade closed anyway, it really is a waste of space that could be better used.
Originally Posted By friendofdd Well, yeah! But the arcade draws in people who would just get in the way of folks who really enjoy the park, too. Better to have them in there than in the walkways an queues
Originally Posted By slim22 Isn't Baxter responsible for Splash Mountain, though? Or am I getting my Imagineers confused? Splash Mountain and Thunder Mountain.
